Any idea where I can get a chunk of the material that is inside a typical acetylene tank? It's for class demonstration.
thanks
Ben
Any idea where I can get a chunk of the material that is inside a typical acetylene tank? It's for class demonstration.
thanks
Ben
Inside an acetylene tank?
I think the important part is the acetone; the filler material must be able to wick acetone to give you lots of surface area to absorb and let off gas, but there's probably a variety of materials with a variety of advantages. For a demo you might be able to use cotton balls soaked in acetone (depending on the demo you want to give).
I always heard the filler was more like concrete.
I also suggest cutting up an old acetylene tank. Really old, that is.
GWE
I am not sure of the spelling but I believe the main ingredient is dichotomous earth. It should be available at just about any chemical supply house. IIRC, dichotomous earth is the calcified skeletons of microscopic creatures such as plankton, sponges, etc from ancient seas. It is used because it is will absorb acetylene and acetone into the microscopic spaces. Acetylene that is free (not contained) will self ignite, (from molecular motion) at about 30+ psi. Acetylene will not stay mixed with acetone so that is why it must be absorbed in a porous material.
Or something like that, Its been many, many years since I sleep through my college chemistry class's.
Well after several books I was able too find the following info.
Filler materials Description
1) Charcoal Monolithic Filler 2) Calcium Silicate 3) Monolithic Filler 4) Balsa WoodHope some of this is useful
John Noon
Did diatomaceous earth cross your mind, but not your fingers?
A safer lab demo - is not with acetylene but with 100% alcohol and water. Martin Martin Eastburn @ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net NRA LOH, NRA Life NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder
Tim Wescott wrote:
Might talk to a gas supplier - welding supplier - might have a tank out of spec and have it safe...
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Grant Erw>
I like the idea of this dichotomous earth. For sure diatomaceous earth is useful as a wick for immoblising the solvent in acetylene cylinders (and is used to immobilise nitroglycerine in "dynamite") - but this dichotomous earth sounds interesting.
dichotomy noun [C usually singular] FORMAL a difference between two completely opposite ideas or things: There is often a dichotomy between what politicians say and what they do.
Diatoms are small organisms.
from "Diatom Home Page" at
So there you have it - with cell walls made of silica, when they come to the end of their diatomaceous thing, you are left with little "silica shells".
Richard Smith
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Rockwool roof insulation is very similar to one of the materials used these days.
I'm surprised diatomaceous earth has been used in any cylinders since the war!
I'd say check with NCG (National Cylinder Gas) or another manufacturer near you. They should have plenty of material.
dennis in nca
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