UK international phonetic alphabet

(a) . A for 'Orses .................. ('ay for 'orses) B for Mutton .................. (Beef or Mutton) C for Miles ................... (See for Miles) D for Ential .................. (Differential) E for Brick ................... ('eave a Brick) F for Vescence ................ (Effervescence) G for Get It .................. (Gee, forget it!) H for Bless You ............... (Aitsshfa! A Sneeze) I for The Engine .............. (Ivor the Engine) J for Oranges ................. (Jaffa Oranges) K for Restaurant .............. (Cafe or Restaurant) L for Leather ................. ('ell for Leather) M for Sis' .................... (Emphasis) N for Lope .................... (Envelope) O for The Wings Of A Dove ..... (O! for the Wings of a Dove!) P for Relief .................. (?!?!) Q for A Bus ................... (Queue for a Bus) R for Mo' ..................... ('alf a Mo') S for Rantzen ................. (Esther Rantzen) T for Two ..................... (Tea for Two) U for Me ...................... (You for Me) V for La France ............... (Vive la France) W for The Winnings ............ (Double you for the Winnings) X for Breakfast ............... (Eggs for Breakfast) Y for Husband ................. (Wife or Husband) Z for Wind .................... (Zephyr Wind)

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Many make it up as the go along. So what, if you know what they mean?

| | I have to admit that "Mike" does have a rather Anglo-Saxon feel to it. | It may not be all that easily understood by a basic english speaker from | Latin America or Asia Pacific. | | There are many phonetic alphabets

| | For example, which can I use in | | (a) purely UK domestic situations ("M as in cream") | (b) international situations | | | Thank you. | Lem | | | | -- | Posted to groups likely to use phonetic alphabets | |

"P" as on "phonetic"?

The Nato/ international one has the widest use and acceptance in the UK.

Martin Hogbin

also G for Police.....................(Chief of Police)

and H for It..................................(hate you for it)

In the UK this last one is, Z for his hat .............(his head for his hat)

Martin Hogbin

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The 'accepted' one by industry is:

Alpha Bravo Charlie Delta Echo Foxtrot Gold Hotel India Mike November Oscar Papa Quebec Romeo Sierra Tango Uniform Victor Xray Yankee Zebra (used to be Zulu, the political correctness happened).

dont worry about phonics, just learn all the "Q" signals

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| > "Lem" wrote in message | > news:Xns97BB978B6CAD3D5E712@127.0.0.1... | > > For example, which can I use in | > >

| > > (a) purely UK domestic situations ("M as in cream") | > > (b) international situations | >

| > (a) . | > A for 'Orses .................. ('ay for 'orses) | > B for Mutton .................. (Beef or Mutton) | > C for Miles ................... (See for Miles) | > D for Ential .................. (Differential) | > E for Brick ................... ('eave a Brick) | > F for Vescence ................ (Effervescence) | > G for Get It .................. (Gee, forget it!) | | also | G for Police.....................(Chief of Police) | | > H for Bless You ............... (Aitsshfa! A Sneeze) | | and | H for It..................................(hate you for it) | | > I for The Engine .............. (Ivor the Engine) | > J for Oranges ................. (Jaffa Oranges) | > K for Restaurant .............. (Cafe or Restaurant) | > L for Leather ................. ('ell for Leather) | > M for Sis' .................... (Emphasis) | > N for Lope .................... (Envelope) | > O for The Wings Of A Dove ..... (O! for the Wings of a Dove!) | > P for Relief .................. (?!?!) | > Q for A Bus ................... (Queue for a Bus) | > R for Mo' ..................... ('alf a Mo') | > S for Rantzen ................. (Esther Rantzen) | > T for Two ..................... (Tea for Two) | > U for Me ...................... (You for Me) | > V for La France ............... (Vive la France) | > W for The Winnings ............ (Double you for the Winnings) | > X for Breakfast ............... (Eggs for Breakfast) | > Y for Husband ................. (Wife or Husband) | > Z for Wind .................... (Zephyr Wind) | | In the UK this last one is, Z for his hat .............(his head for his hat) | | Martin Hogbin

You can't have zed for titfer. A hat is a titfer in the UK - tit for tat.

In message , !

I have always used Golf (amateur radio only, no RAF!)

until.0 you .0have.0 to .0spell .0them.0 out.0 LOL

It's Golf - Gold may be confused with Cold

I still use Zulu - or do you think Yankee should be changed for the sake of PC?

In article , !

The NATO/International phonetic alphabet is also standard with the US Department of Defense. At the Academy I was required to be able to recite it in 7 seconds flat, including adding a "Sir!" at the end. If you practice it enough to do that, you *know* it.

Tom Davidson Richmond, VA

Not out.

Having had a look round the net it would seem that Z for Wind was used in the UK.

Martin Hogbin

I am the OP. The trouble is that phonetic alphabet is that it sounds and feels like something from the wartime RAF or army complete stiff upper lip and clipped handlebar moustaches.

U for uniform? This is 2006 and "U for uncle" is what I sometimes hear and which I think is far better for use between two UK natives because of its universaility and it retains clarity.

As I posted, "M for mother" is often heard and probably better understood than "M for Mike" (mic ? Michael?).

Quebec and Lima (you have some missing) are probably not even on the mental map for a lot of the recently educated UK population. It's not for me to educate these people (not to denigrate them) but I sometimes need to communicate clearly with them. Queen? London?

T for Tommy has got to beat Tango which is now widely seen as a trade name.

F for Freddy is surely nicer than foxtrot. This isn't the 1930's.

Heh!

What industry? I have never heard 'Gold' or 'Zebra' used.

They are supposed to be recognisable sounds for use in poor conditions which people who need to use them are familiar with and know start with the specific letter, there is no requirement to know where Quebec is for example. It also does not matter if you say Mic (microphone) or Mike (Michael), they sound the same and both begin with 'M' whereas 'mother' could be misheard as 'other' and being non-standard the listener would not know they had misheard; was it 'Tommy' or 'pome', is it Fready or Ready? Oh, and isn't Tommy a brand of children's toys?

Oh, and just what is the connexion with sci.physics?