How much of the legal team fees are associated with the Wickman/Enzi legislative effort (which as you say does not impact the ongoing NAR/TRA/BATFE litigation)? Is this paid out of the litigation warchest donations, or is there some other funding for this legal advice that does not impact the ongoing litigation?
Alan Jones, NAR 15578
How's he expect to get it through the Judiciary Committee?
You sir are paying attention (still).
That would be a felony.
Jerry
I suspect that he doesn't intend to go that route. My guess is that he will advocate that HK 724 be brought to the floor, but not under unanimous consent, which will then open it up for admendments from the floor. Then a substitute bill can be proposed right there. However, I think that route is very dangerous. It is going to take a lot of convincing before I would actively support that tactic.
John Marvin snipped-for-privacy@fc.hp.com NAR 75392 L2
If one tries hard enough and often enough, it's possible to put your head through a brick wall. Even if unsuccessful, he can at least show people some redeeming characteristics, such as persistence and thick-headedness. But, I can think of a few others that are less complimentary. ;)
-John
Such an attempt would certainly be a first for R.M.R.
Joel Corwith wrote: > I'd like to know how he "knows" Wickham would be glad. Sounds like an
Except the NAR approach if it results in ANY weight limits at all is not relief, but a step backward. So I am in NO hurry for that!
Besides this was a Wickman/Enzi project. Why is NAR mucking it up or doing anythinng at all but supporting whatever Wickman and Enzi are doing? Did they dislike the language of SB724? If so, how?
Jerry
Didn't NAR/TRA state that the Congressional effort, when it was started, was independent from the lawsuit, and that they counsled their members not to get involved? Is my memory so bad that I mis-remember that? If so, then when and how did the Congressional effort become a NAR/TRA run game?
Also, has anyone thought of the possibility, (highly probable, IMHO), that some of the posts here may be ATFE agents, or associates, posing as rocketeers?
Just some silly questions, I guess, but my $0.0002 worth. (Don't forget inflation!)
Ed
I've contacted him indirectly, and been assured that he'll have public info soon. At this point my #1 concern is that any legislation that does get passed better solve our problems, not create new ones. It's unlikely that we'll get a second chance. But #1.1 has to be to do whatever Sen. Enzi thinks is the best course for s to get relief. He's absolutely the last person I'd want to piss off right now.
While it would be nice if John posted directly, Dick Embry certainly doesn't, and Bruce Kelly never did. None of our elected officials do, nore does anyone fromthe BATFE. In fact the only real rocket organization leader that does post here is Bunny.
Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD!
When it started to look like it would actualy succeed...? :-)
It was my undestanding that the JBGTs that come out and violate your 4th ammendment rights do not have the power to arrest you. They collect information which may be turned over to someone else. Right now I'd LOVE to see them actually charge someone with a felony for possessing a 63g APCP motor without storage and a permit. I'm sure the media would have a three ring circus showing waste of government resources going after a hobby rocketeer in todays terrorist plagued world. I nominate Jerry Irvine to be that individual.
Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD!
I agree with Jerry. And we have a huge vinyl collection as well. And Beta video.
TRUE STORY: The Library of congress is worried that their music CD collection is deteriorating already (CDs have only been around for about 2 decades). So they are transfering all of their CDs to a more stable long lasting medium: 78 rpm vinyl. THIS IS NOT A JOKE.
Original Edison cylingers are still playable. The SEVEN TRACK magtapes I have from college computer days are not.
Take that Chris "digital is perfect" Taylor!
Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD!
Me too. Still have my parents 78 lp's from the 40's, but they're kind of scratchy. The trick today is having something to play them on. Even have a sealed, MINT edition, of The Beatles White album that my brother gave to me about 1969. He already had one. : )
Randy
I suspect that their thoughts are going rather along the lines of "politics is the art of the possible - let's try for what we can get without crossing the 'anti-terrorist' line in the sand that some of the senators want to draw..."
-dave w
Except Jerry's agent already knows the rules. You might have better luck getting yours to "take the bait".
(However, although many of us would love to see the Bureau be taken down off its high horse by a good hard scandal, we have to remember that this is the agency that survived the Waco fiasco, organizationally intact to all external appearances. How did BATFE get to be so "teflon" in the fist place?)
-dave w
Actually, that's not really an "analog vs. digital" issue, that's a "mechanical" vs "magnetic/optical" issue.
-dave w
(However, although many of us would love to see the Bureau be
Partly because the FBI came in in relief, and turned an outrageously ridiculous screw-up into one of globally witnessed ineptitude thereby letting the ATF off the hook.
I think the FBI came in at Ruby Ridge, too.
Doug
It's a new millenia. Try imitating a car CD player going over a big bump.
Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD!
My WHAT???
Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD!
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