alternative to Hatch/Kohl 724 in the works

I've always felt that it is proper and appropriate to write to your senators and representatives.

It almost never does any good, but at least you can wind up with a pen-pal.

Gary

this is an excellent, fresh analysis

well done!

- iz

What makes an EX motor with >62.5g of APCP any different that a commercial motor with >62.5g of APCP in respect to a LEUP? None. So, EX is not a substitute for relief from regulation. But it is an option to those waiting for a certain manufacturer to ramp up production. And it's an option for those that would have to pay the increased shipping costs (if they don't have a local dealer or onsite vendor). Buy 'em or make 'em, you still need a permit. Unless, of course, one decides to ignore the current laws.

-john

Sadly, that may be true.

Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD!

when rocketry was 500 or so people with 50 at a big time launch, rocketry was under the radar screeen of ATF and they didn't care.

in the last 15 years it's gotton tooo big for them to ignore, and they worry more then science geeks are doing it. It scares them when JQP can launch a big rocket.

Like I said, it would be technically illegal, but there's no way for anyone to stop you from doing it, or even know that you did it.

It's about 40% here.

Tom

But he's going to Florida, not "down south". ;-)

Yeah, you're right. ; )

Randy

But do NOT tell him anything about grits.

Some things you just have to learn for yourself .

Some people think and act like it is. Fear and shun them.

They already require all manufacturers, vendors, dealers, and consumers get ATF permits, certifications, and take tests none of which are rerquired by law except in the internalized NAR/TRA/NFPA self-written universe. All 4500 of them.

Jerry

I hate it when I agree with Bundick, but I also prefer Orange over Grape.

Used to sell both at scout camp commissary.

Used to deliver on time then too.

Jerry

Some of them are stupid enough and pro-government biased enough.

Jerry

The pro TRA/NAR biased posters here cannot understand your message and are merely reactively annoyed by it. The very lack of vision that makes them effective shhple and HPR subscribers makes them anti-freedom.

Jerry

Obviously you've not met Andy Jackson (Mr. ASP) :-)

He's the very epitome of southern good-ole-boys...but a great rocket guy, too!

That may very well be the case. But it's outside the legal jurisdiction of the BATFE to regulate.

If congress thinks that the sheeple want all devices capable of DELIVERING a destructive or dangerous device to be heavily regulated, then they should pass a new law and creat a new federal buocracy to do so. But they better regulate EVERY such deliver device. Not just high power rockets, but Ryder trucks, Boeing (and Airbus, Cesna, Lear, et al) airplanes, Greyhound bus lines, Chrysler minivans, and personal cars. And package delivery companies too.

Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD!

One site does not make a national population.

What percentage of HPR fliers nationally also do EX? I'd say it's a lot closer to my initial 2% estimate than your 40%.

Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD!

Do you mean among those certified to fly HPR (and then launch 1 H per year) or those who actually fly HPR?

I would restate the question. What portion of EX'ers even bother with HPR anymore with the TRA/LEUP/errortech treadmill?

A very small percentage.

There are ALOT more estes rocketeers than NAR members, by at least two orders of magnitude, and a similar situation exists in Am/Ex re HPR.

Jerry