The pirate could have paid them off with a few pieces of eight, but only if
his hook was registered with local authorities. Probably easier to catch -
the pegleg slows him down.
Who knows about the parrot, however, as the parrot could be an illegal
This one has a photo:
What gets me even more is the quote "University Police Chief Jimmy
Williamson said Ransom was released as soon as he was found to have
violated no laws."
I'm sorry, but I missed the part where they're (be it ATF or the police)
supposed to go after someone WITHOUT believing a law has been violated???
Didn't prevent him from being detained with a knee on his neck - that
looks uncomfortable! And he was like that long enough for someone to
find and ready a camera to take the picture.
He was stopped and roughed up on suspicion of doing something unusual,
which apparently is a crime these days. I have zero problem with
jumping both feet on people who actually do something wrong, but all
the action taken to supposedly "prevent crime" makes me nervous.
Like the regulation that requires banks to make a report when someone
moves more than a certain amount of cash - or darned near every
provision of the humorously-named "Patriot Act"
I hope your are not one of the people who also say that the feds should have
stopped the 9/11 hijackers cuz they were suspicious (but did not yet break
any laws). That would be a case of having your cake and eating it, too.
If someone is lurking around looking suspicious, ANY AND ALL law enforcement
officials should be doing something. The last time I saw someone with thier
face covered in public, he popped open a cash register and broke for the
door with a wad of money.
I was not there, I didn't even read the article. I am saying that the
officials are trained to react to situations and this was one of them.
Western New York Sailplane and Electric Flyers
Law enforcement officers are also trained to find out wtf is going on in
the community around them. DECENT law enforcement officers would have
asked their event coordinator about any other events happening on campus
at the same time as their own shin dig.
BZZZZTTTT!!! Wrong answer!
They're fully within their rights to watch, follow, etc., someone
looking "suspicious". But no way in hell do they have the right to do
anything else until they've broken the law (or at the very least have
If dressing funny and acting goofy on a college campus was 'unusual' or
'suspicious', I don't know of a campus around that would have anyone left.
Haven't you heard all of those stories about how they've seen someone
looking suspicious, and then the follow them, and at the POINT WHERE
THEY COMMIT AN ILLEGAL ACT, they are arrested?
This is getting WAY beyond crazy (and I'm considered a very conservative
I agree, the 9/11 hijackers committed no crime, up to the point where
they attacked the people on the plane. AND AT THAT POINT, passengers
(and or airline personnel) should have had their own weapons available
to fight back.
If the government had proof of the conspiracy, then yes, they could have
done something. LACKING THAT, they did nothing up to the point where
they pulled out and used (including threatened use) of their weapons.
Conspiracy charges make me nervous. No one was harmed; and I'd wager
90% of the people who "conspire" to commit a crime never do.
Certainly in high school (several decades ago) a couple of friends and
I talked about who we'd like to see dead. Were we going to do anything
about it? Of course not. But today, we'd be in held without bail just
like some local boys right now - none of whom actually posess weapons.
As Robert Heinlein (who I consider my spiritual father) once wrote, "An
armed society is a polite society."
The details are hazy, but I recall an incident in Australia a few years
ago where a looney wandered around a park for over an hour shooting
people at random. There were over a dozen casualties; it took so long
to stop him because the has to send for armed officers to deal with it.
My thought at the time was that in an armed society this would have
been a third page story rather than a mass-murder catastrophy.
I belive the standard answer is that he could have been armed which
makes it ok if 10 of them beat the crap out of a one unarmed person.
After all they are protecting us. Now all we need is someone to
protect us from them.
On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 16:50:05 -0400, "W. E. Fred Wallace"
My wife and I discussed this incident. We were figuring that the cops
blew it for not checking out what local events were going on, and the
kids throwing the pirates vs. ninja event blew it for not taking outside
events into consideration.
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