ATF Busts Ningi on UGA Campus

Wonder what they wold have done to one of the Pirates ?

Arrr..

The pirate could have paid them off with a few pieces of eight, but only if his hook was registered with local authorities. Probably easier to catch - the pegleg slows him down.

Who knows about the parrot, however, as the parrot could be an illegal immigrant.

So what do you do with a ninja suit? Drink it? Smoke it? Shoot it? Blow it up? Talk about an agency out of control!

It's BATFE, not BATFE&Arrrr.

(Pirate socks - arrrrr-gyle.)

Fortunately they weren't playing "cowboys and indians", or the ATF would have had to burn down the whole campus.

This one has a photo:

What gets me even more is the quote "University Police Chief Jimmy Williamson said Ransom was released as soon as he was found to have violated no laws."

I'm sorry, but I missed the part where they're (be it ATF or the police) supposed to go after someone WITHOUT believing a law has been violated???

David Erbas-White

Didn't prevent him from being detained with a knee on his neck - that looks uncomfortable! And he was like that long enough for someone to find and ready a camera to take the picture.

He was stopped and roughed up on suspicion of doing something unusual, which apparently is a crime these days. I have zero problem with jumping both feet on people who actually do something wrong, but all the action taken to supposedly "prevent crime" makes me nervous.

Like the regulation that requires banks to make a report when someone moves more than a certain amount of cash - or darned near every provision of the humorously-named "Patriot Act"

I hope your are not one of the people who also say that the feds should have stopped the 9/11 hijackers cuz they were suspicious (but did not yet break any laws). That would be a case of having your cake and eating it, too.

If someone is lurking around looking suspicious, ANY AND ALL law enforcement officials should be doing something. The last time I saw someone with thier face covered in public, he popped open a cash register and broke for the door with a wad of money.

I was not there, I didn't even read the article. I am saying that the officials are trained to react to situations and this was one of them.

Law enforcement officers are also trained to find out wtf is going on in the community around them. DECENT law enforcement officers would have asked their event coordinator about any other events happening on campus at the same time as their own shin dig.

Bob

BZZZZTTTT!!! Wrong answer!

They're fully within their rights to watch, follow, etc., someone looking "suspicious". But no way in hell do they have the right to do anything else until they've broken the law (or at the very least have 'reasonable grounds').

If dressing funny and acting goofy on a college campus was 'unusual' or 'suspicious', I don't know of a campus around that would have anyone left.

Haven't you heard all of those stories about how they've seen someone looking suspicious, and then the follow them, and at the POINT WHERE THEY COMMIT AN ILLEGAL ACT, they are arrested?

This is getting WAY beyond crazy (and I'm considered a very conservative Republican).

I agree, the 9/11 hijackers committed no crime, up to the point where they attacked the people on the plane. AND AT THAT POINT, passengers (and or airline personnel) should have had their own weapons available to fight back.

David Erbas-White

attacked the people on

Incorrect - they had committed conspiracy to hijack an airliner and commit mass murder.

attacked the people on

If the government had proof of the conspiracy, then yes, they could have done something. LACKING THAT, they did nothing up to the point where they pulled out and used (including threatened use) of their weapons.

David Erbas-White

attacked the people on

Exactly...up until they actually did the act...the only thing they could have been convicted of was a "thought crime". (Unless we consider that some of them may have been here on expired visas, etc.)

As Robert Heinlein (who I consider my spiritual father) once wrote, "An armed society is a polite society."

The details are hazy, but I recall an incident in Australia a few years ago where a looney wandered around a park for over an hour shooting people at random. There were over a dozen casualties; it took so long to stop him because the has to send for armed officers to deal with it.

My thought at the time was that in an armed society this would have been a third page story rather than a mass-murder catastrophy.

Conspiracy charges make me nervous. No one was harmed; and I'd wager

90% of the people who "conspire" to commit a crime never do.

Certainly in high school (several decades ago) a couple of friends and I talked about who we'd like to see dead. Were we going to do anything about it? Of course not. But today, we'd be in held without bail just like some local boys right now - none of whom actually posess weapons.

do u feel safer now? I don't.

shockie B(

Alas, these days it seems that they are trained to OVERreact to situations.

Law enforcement reaction to a situation should be proportional to the actual threat. To engage in a high speed chase for someone going 10mph over the speed limit is reckless. To treat someone dressed "unusual" on a college campus as a thug (refer to the picture of the JBGT kneeling on the kids neck, and the story about agents with guns drawn) is assult and battery, and a violation of the kids civil rights. I hope there's lots of lawyers on campus.

Check out this poor guy's demise, at the hands of a SWAT team:

(the fact that a SWAT team was sent out to arrest an unarmed optometrist, on a BETTING charge, is like something out of the movie "Brazil" - yet this sort of crap happens every day)