FAA Notification on Large Model Rockets

Cite? I live in a swing state, we had multiple visits by the presidential candidates last year. I don't recall any mention of model rocketry in the security procedures.

Reply to
Steven P. McNicoll
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Then it's not an issue.

What airspace?

It's up to you to support your assertion.

Reply to
Steven P. McNicoll

It appears that's not a determination you're capable of making.

You're not the first person I've stumped to killfile me, you surely won't be the last.

Reply to
Steven P. McNicoll

What is it you believe they're weaseling out of?

Reply to
Steven P. McNicoll

How did you survive the Reagan purge??

Reply to
W. E. Fred Wallace

Interesting you should invoke transference again.

He seems to be trying to ask quite reasobable questions.

You are simply defensive and obstructionist and also as he observes, lacking of common sense.

Reply to
Jerry Irvine

Do you believe something should be done? Do you believe a regulation has been violated? Is so, which one?

Reply to
Steven P. McNicoll

Cool.

Have him recommend eliminating the currrent weight limits entirely and switch to EXEMPT up to 8000 feet and VFR. Waiver over 8000 feet AGL AND

5 pounds propellant.

Jerry

Reply to
Jerry Irvine

But it was so easy this time :)

Reply to
Jerry Irvine

Correct. I believe the exact phrasing was something like. "Please do not launch model rockets between [certain time frame] as we do not want you blown off of the face of the earth". Even though I pointed out that terrorists most likely do not do NOTAMS (to laughter on the other end of the phone) it did not matter. Even though the FAA knew about our activities because of the NOTAM it did not matter. So all of you so called FAA/NOTAM experts can say or think whatever you want. This is called working with the FAA and I must say in the end it does pay huge dividends. And builds a solid relationship which is priceless.

Reply to
Greg Cisko

You obviously did not understand the question. Let me repeat it, with emphasis on the key portion; what situation, NOT ALREADY COVERED BY FAR PART

101, would constitute a reasonable request to cease launch operations?
Reply to
Steven P. McNicoll

They are exempt.

So they cannot be regulated EXCEPT by a police order by a policeman at the site at the time.

But that would not be an airspace jurisdiction.

Reply to
Jerry Irvine

For legally using airspace while folks with "unmanned" rockets and with a "higher proscribed duty of care" piss and moan?

Jerry

Reply to
Jerry Irvine

I am saying if a pilot says he saw an unsafe rocket activity, the local airport people will listen to him before "Joe model rocket dude".

What specific instance are you referring to? I am speaking in general terms from real life experience (which was B.S. BTW) Do you have the same experience? Or are you just guessing?

Reply to
Greg Cisko

Why, yes, I do have a relationship with my local TRACON and other FAA people and contacts. Perhaps that's why I see this issue so differently than most in this forum.

Reasonable people answer simple questions without resorting to personal attacks.

Reply to
Steven P. McNicoll

Sir, your expertise is grossly misplaced on rmr. I think you are beginning to see that.

Welcome to my world :-(

Jerry

Reply to
Jerry Irvine

I just made it....

Stumped! If you being an A$$ hole is what you consider "stumping someone", I guess there is hidden logic there somewhere. BTW, do you fly rockets?

Reply to
W. E. Fred Wallace

Do the math.

Reply to
Steven P. McNicoll

I had an airport manager and FAA Flight Safety District Official tell me otherwise. Obviously I am saying "I don't think so". But, perception is everything.

Reply to
Greg Cisko

It does serve a purpose.

It enhances the attractive nuisance.

It works well too.

Jerry

Reply to
Jerry Irvine

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