The discrepancy was between what someone said the ATAC said, and the actual regs. Not between what an rmr'ian "tried to impose" and the actual regs.
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The discrepancy was between what someone said the ATAC said, and the actual regs. Not between what an rmr'ian "tried to impose" and the actual regs.
I see. When calling in waivers, I've been asked for a working number at the launch site in case they need to shut us down. With that being the case, requesting the same under notification seems odd but not to radically different. Especially with the post 911 bs.
You think you have a lock on that one? 8-)
Dig your hole deeper.
authorization.
Are those meds in the regs and FAA conversations too?
A waiver can be "shut down" any time for any reason by the FAA. A notification cannot. An arbitrary over-enforcement that is not specified anywhere in the regs IS radically different.
-- David
Very good point.
Yet another EXEMPTION cheerfully and voluntarily ATTEMPTED TO BE forfeited by an overzelous rule loving rocketeer.
Jerry
This reg actually saves you from yourself Phil :)
At the time we were not too far from the NADC and the NAWC, so it didn't seem unreasonable they wanted a callback number to notify us of a problem. Remember they shoot at schools around here. They've both been shut down now, so that may be mute.
Yes, seemed odd to me, but they are over 100 miles away. Maybe they don't have maps that far north.
Chuck
I found a page showing NAS Johnsville, which became NADC and NAWC Johnsville. It is the largest and last airport on the page. Notice what they used for an antenae. They did some bizarre stuff there, including having the centrifuge which trained the Gemini astronauts. And planes with odd markings were seen taking off on moonlit nights.
Chuck
That's a different situation, we're not talking about anything requiring a waiver. They can't shut something down that does not require their authorization.
Phil and Ray have learning disabilities and Fred is "limp". He cannot even "facilitate" a --default-- DOT classification (no testing requiored) of 1.3C.
Jerry
Kinda reminds you of ATF and 27 CFR 555.141-a-8, eh?
Just Jerry
Actually... It (NOTAMS) might be able to be shut down if it is proven that your activities are unsafe. And that is the sticking point.
Notification under 101.25 does not require a NOTAM, only a Waiver does.
Jerry is right this time, you guys are making stuff up.
It is common.
So why haven't YOU "facilitated" a "default" classification?
you have had more than fifteen years.
How LAME is that?!
What's the big deal? If someone really needs to be in that airspace instead of me, I'm willing to give it up.
Wouldn't you be willing to give it up if it would somehow make things more safe for another person?
Yeah and you are 49 Grand limp.
Your substantial bullshit aside all rocketeer airspace use is VFR.
Have you noticed no matter how much you pollute this thread intentionally and maliciously, I bring it back on-topic?
Learn.
Or not :)
Jerry
"Jerry is right this time, you guys are making stuff up."
- David"
"Yet another EXEMPTION cheerfully and voluntarily ATTEMPTED TO BE forfeited by an overzelous rule loving rocketeer."
- Jerry Irvine
I'm just saying that I don't see it as being a big deal. I acknowledge that it is not required by FAR 101. I think some people tend to overreact over small things.
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