FAA Notification on Large Model Rockets

What if the police decided to pull you over for having a rocket in the back of your car, and asks you to destroy it? There is no law against having a rocket in your car, but hey, he happened to feel that it was dangerous on that particular day. That IS a big deal. To me, it's the same thing. I can't understand why you think it's not a big deal to get arbitrary over-enforcement. But hey, you're entitled to your opinion. Expressing an opinion on RMR as fact is what gets everyone so riled up about Jerry, isn't it?

And the answer to your second question is NO, I would not arbitrarily give up my rights to make someone else feel safe. People are WAY too sensitive and ignorant about what is really safe and what is not. What if a little old lady in your neighborhood felt unsafe because you have a pack of C motors in your house? Would you give them up? Giving up our rights voluntarily is not safe in the long run.

I've gotten sucked way too far into this argument; I'm not going to continue it any longer. You can feel free to have the last word.

-- David

instead of me, I'm willing to give it up.

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David
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Well David, try this on for size, (it's not made up): According to Mr. Frank Jordon at the FAA Regional, NY Center; "the reason for the 24 -48 hour notification requirement, required under Part 101.25, is so if FAA determines a notem is required, there is time to publish. A wavered launch, on the other hand, is different as the notem is published as part of the waver process and is activated when called in the day of the launch and deactivated when called by either FAA, responsible launch individual, or the time expires". If you don't believe this as true, please feel free to call Mr. Jordan @ 718-553-4521. BTW, Mr. Jordon has been very helpful to the clubs in the Mid Atlantic, northern part of the East Coast, and New England areas, providing good information and help in obtaining wavers. I don't know if he had a hand in our latest standing MDRA waver of 17,000', (a 3,000' increase from last year), as I have not talked to Mr. Jordon in well over a year, but several years ago we were lucky to get 10,000' and over the last few years our approved waver alt. limit has steadily gone up.

Fred

Reply to
W. E. Fred Wallace

I see our boy JI is still taking liberties with the truth.. Am I missing anything else, like a good, "just tech jerry posting"?(:-)))

Fred

Reply to
W. E. Fred Wallace

True.

True.

True.

True.

True.

Congrats.

Too bad you did not cooperate with my efforts for on-site storage and verified proper shipping of motors there with FULL disclosure and transparancy.

The truth is not mutually exclusive from another truth.

Reply to
Jerry Irvine

Yes?

:)

Reply to
Jerry Irvine

I agree that people have become to sensitive. I don't feel that I did express my opinion as fact. If I did I didn't intend to. I also get pissed off when people do that.

Where I do disagree with you is where I would be willing to yield to what seems like a reasonable request. If I were asked to do so for some bs reason, the answer is no. I would be willing to be inconvienienced if it is going to help someone in a way that in my opinion makes a difference.

I'm also d>What if the police decided to pull you over for having a rocket in the back

Reply to
Phil Stein

I haven't seen a 'good' 'just tech jerry' posting in literally years. I think 'Tech Jerry' has lost the battle & 'Big Fine Irvine' has taken over.

Reply to
Phil Stein

DOT processed your paperwork and provided full disclosure. Isn't that what you wanted? If you hadn't taken liberties with the truth, we wouldn't be able to call you Big Fine Irvine.

Reply to
Phil Stein

My ATC has me call the control in the area I am flying when I do this Steve.

Reply to
AlMax

Hmmm. THEY state they did not.

Reply to
Jerry Irvine

Huh?

bs according to the asker or the answerer?

hmmm?

Reply to
Jerry Irvine

If they hadn't processed your paperwork, you wouldn't owe Forty Gran to the Man!! How can you have a fine without paperwork?

Reply to
Phil Stein

Would someone (except you) ask for something that they thought was bs

- assuming it weren't required by FAR 101?

Reply to
Phil Stein

Are you paying attention, even to yourself?

I thought not.

Reply to
Jerry Irvine

I don't see any of his posts, unless someone else responds.. (:-)

Reply to
W. E. Fred Wallace

And be a party to JI illegal activities, I don't think so.. You have me to thank for that...(:-)

That and much more, (to come, I wonder??).

Reply to
W. E. Fred Wallace

I made clear what was needed for my compliance disclosures to commence for full anal probe analysis.

The preconditions never occured as a result of your effort.

I never asked you to "allow" a single motor until AFTER the entire process was installed and blessed by ALL.

That offer still stands unchanged.

So to say you were somehow "protecting the club" is both false and speculative. There was NEVER anything in reality or in process to protect the club "from".

Jerry

Reply to
Jerry Irvine

jerry, I know it's really, really hard for you, but could you please translate the above post from "Traditional Anal Jerry Speak" to "North American English"? Very few People would ever be expected to comprehend a "dead" language such as what you babble.

If you could.

Reply to
Dave Grayvis

I thought he would at least have something new to add. I bet if I googled, I could find the same words, said some time ago, in a different post.. Gota love it...(:-)

Reply to
W. E. Fred Wallace

That's logical, but may violate the letter of the law. The ATC facility responsible for the airspace concerned is frequently not the closest ATC facility.

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Steven P. McNicoll

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