FAA Notification on Large Model Rockets

Really?

With you on that Bob. The pressing issue is the BATFE. But having said that, if someone (either us or the ATC) gets confused, the potential for safety issues does arrise, and if there is anything that can be done to make the sport/hobby/obsession any safer in the gen. public's eyes, then we have done ourselves a great service.

-BJC > >> Well David, try this on for size, (it's not made up): According to Mr.

Son, you do whatever you want, if you feel you are in a position to assume. However, I have no intention of refusing an FAA official's, request to terminate activities. I may second guess, after the fact. However, the fact FAA makes a request, makes it reasonable to me, unless later determined otherwise. This is common sense to me; no rocket science involved...

Fred

I think an example I know of is the president flying in to his ranch ?

Can you remember if this has happened at NARAMs at all ?

IE mod rocs thursting into the clouds while wondering where they are ?

I love how DOT 'processed'Jerry's paperwork. 8-)

It doesn't sound like it matter at Jerry's field. You know- just like DOT regs don't apply to him either.

WHen was the last time you were in Texas (since they threw you out)?

Don't you feel you are in a position to assume? After all, you did write, "We should assume the request is for safety of flight operations."

That's fine.

How would you do that?

How could you later determine otherwise?

Your messages suggest you lack common sense.

Is that not already covered by FAR Part 101?

Isn't it possible that an aircraft may be approaching and it is obscured by trees or it's flying very low where it is not easily seen until it's right on you? I don't disagree with you but I do think that there may be instances where a call could make a potential situation less like to become a problem. In reality, very few of our rockets will hurt anything and as you've said, VFR would prevent any problems in mmost cases.

That's brings up a question - what's up with the sight seers that seem to come out of the the woodwork every time there is a nice day and there is a NOTAM? Shouldn't the NOTAM keep them away?

Yeah Jerry - here's an area where you have some credibility.

So? Get the tail number and report 'em! That's your recourse!

David Erbas-White

Okay, here's another one: a counter-drug operation is going on with incoming aircraft over the border from Mexico (a real possibility for Plaster Blaster launches). They have received the NOTAM, but they are conducting legitimate law enforcement operations. The tower is aware of who and where they are -- but they don't want to notify anyone of the specifics over the airwaves.

That would appear to be a 'valid' reason for 'asking' to delay flights for a while (as an example).

And as stated, these are the same folks that you want to have a good working relationship with, so that when you ask them for a 'favor', they will be more willing to grant it. Remember, they are not REQUIRED to give a 'waiver'.

David Erbas-White

Nope, nothing about his flying into his ranch is very near the rocket launch at all, they just want the airspace cleared anyway.

talk to the texas group about it.

I think you are trying to be cute.

Once again, I think you are trying to be cute..

Once again, you "are" trying to be cute..

Now your being an a$$ hole..

Fred Wallace

Then why did you say I was always a liar?

Did I ever use the word always? I don't think anyone can always lie - not even you.