history: Handbook of Model Rocketry

Ok History Buffs....I need the date that each edition of the world famous
Handbook of Model rocketry was published.
Also didn't G.Harry author at least one other book on Model Rocketry?
TIA
shockie B)
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shockwaveriderz
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I have the first edition, copyright 1965, the forward is dated August 15,1965
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Dale Greene
Digging through my messy closet I found "THE NEW MODEL ROCKETRY MANUAL" copyright 1977 - looks to be a highly shortened version of the original with a lot of the same pictures but only 120 pages
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Dale Greene
thanks Dale, in addition to the date, I also need the name of the publisher and if possible, the printing number... for example there may have been multiple print edition of the same edition...
TIA
shockie B)
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shockwaveriderz
I have a battered hardback "Completely Revised" 2nd edition from 1967 that Harry signed for me at one of the MIT model rocket conferences. Follett Publishing. Library of Congress Catalog Card Number: 67-17665. There is a "T 3660/3661" and it is marked as the second printing. The foreword is dated August 15, 1965. Will
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Will Marchant
OK, the publisher was Follett Publishing Co of Chicago, I see nothing refering to a printing number,the library of congress catalog number is 65-18968 and at the bottom of the page is 123456789 -I doubt if that means anything! And the price - $4.95 paperback, a lot of money back then!
For the new model rocketry manual - Publisher ARCO PUBLISHING COMPANY,INC 219 park avenue south, New York NY. Numbers on the inner page , TL844.S75 629.47'5'0228 76-36137 ISBN 0-668-04282-6
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Dale Greene
Another find from the messy closet(thanks for starting this thread, you've helped me start spring cleaning).Handbook of model rocketry forth edition, completely revised Latest facts & photos - paperback. Follett Publishing Company, Chicago Text copyright 1976 by GHS ISBN 0-695-80615-7 paper ISBN 0-695-80616-5 cloth Library of Congress Catalog Card Number 75-13852 Numbers at the base of the title page 23456798/828180797877
I know friends have other editions, I'll try to track them down
Dale Greene SPAAR 503
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Dale Greene
Third Ed "Revised Edition Latest Facts & Photos" (c) 1970 First Printing J Previous editions (c) 1965, 1967 Paperback
ISBN O 695-80149-X Paper binding ISBN O 695-80150-3 Cloth binding
The foreword is dated August 15, 1965
rocketguy101
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David Stribling
Handbook of Model Rocketry Second Edition Follett Publishing Company Chicago New York Copyright 1965 and 1967, By G. Harry Stine. Library of Congress Catalog Card Number: 67-17655 Second Printing
That enough info for you? :) :)
Found the Second Edition in the library of my son's 5th grade school. Traded them a Sixth Edition for it. Not a bad trade.
Bob Wiersbe
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Hmmm. Let's see.....
An on topic post brings 2 of rmr's finest, long time posters out of the wood work. Wiersbe and Holihan in the same day. Who'd uhh believed it? ; )
Randy
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Jerry Irvine
Didn't notice that anyone came up with the fifth:
Arco Publishing Inc., 1983
TL844.S77 1983 629.46'52'0228 82-8913 ISBN 0668-05358-5 (Reference Text) AACR2 ISBN 0-668-05360-7 (Paper edition)
have all of 'em. GC
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Gary Crowell / VCP
But you are hard core for "Lee Corey".
Jerry
"Today, *anybody* can put a large model rocket motor in a very small, highly streamlined model rocket and launch it straight up and out of sight. It doesn't prove that the person who did it is a genius, somebody special, a technology wizard, or anything of the sort. It does, however, indicate that the person is a "technology twit"--one who doesn't care how science and technology are used..." - The Handbook of Model Rocketry, 5th edition, page 10 by G. Harry Stine
"Nothing in the preface or first chapter [The Handbook of Model Rocketry, 5th edition] makes any distinction between "basement bombing" and organized amateur groups." - Kenneth C. McGoffin
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Jerry Irvine
gary: since you have them all would you provide, 4th,5th,6th info please?
TIA
shockie B)
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shockwaveriderz
It was probably shortly after his death, but someone, possibly Gary Crowell, posted a rather complete and extensive bibliography of G Harry's works to RMR. You might be able to find it in one of the archive searches...
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Bob Kaplow
...good thing for archives, I couldn't find it here at home. Here it is again with a few updates. Fixed pitch font and 100 character width for the format to work. As before, if anyone can add anything to it, please do. He must have had articles in technical/professional journals, but I never ran across an index for those.
GC
George Harry Stine March 26, 1928 - November 2, 1997
(Pseudonyms: Lee Correy)
Series ======
Starsea Invaders 1 First Action (1993) 2 Second Contact (1994) 3 Third Encounter (1995)
Warbots 1 Warbots (1988) 2 Operation Steel Band (1988) 3 The Bastaard Rebellion (1988) 4 Sierra Madre (1988) 5 Operation High Dragon (1989) 6 The Lost Battalion (1989) 7 Operation Iron Fist (1989) 8 Force of Arms (1990) 9 Blood Siege (1990) 10 Guts and Glory (1991) 11 Warrior Shield (1992) 12 Judgment Day (1992)
Star Trek Star Trek Pocket 6 The Abode of Life (1981)[as Lee Correy]
Novels [as Lee Correy] ======================
Starship Through Space (1954) [jvn] Contraband Rocket (1955) Rocket Man (1955) [jvn] Star Driver (1980) Shuttle Down (1981) Magazine Appearances: Analog Science Fiction/Science Fact Shuttle Down (Part 1 of 4) ; December 1980, Vol. 100 No 12 Shuttle Down (Part 2 of 4) ; January 5, 1981, Vol. 101 No 1 Shuttle Down (Part 3 of 4) ; February 2, 1981, Vol. 101 No 2 Shuttle Down (Part 4 of 4) ; March 2, 1981, Vol. 101 No 3 Space Doctor (1981) Manna (1983) Magazine Appearances: Analog Science Fiction/Science Fact Manna (Part 1 of 3) ; May 1983, Vol. 103 No 5 Manna (Part 2 of 3) ; June 1983, Vol. 103 No 6 Manna (Part 3 of 3) ; July 1983, Vol. 103 No 7 A Matter of Metalaw (1986)
Non-Fiction ===========
Earth Satellites and the Race for Space Superiority (1957) Rocket Power and Space Flight (1957) Man and the Space Frontier (1962) Handbook of Model Rocketry 1st Edition (1965) 2nd Edition (1967) 3rd Edition (1970) 4th Edition (1976) 5th Edition (1983) 6th Edition (1994) 7th Edition (2004) (with Bill Stine) The Model Rocketry Manual (1975) The New Model Rocketry Manual (1977) Shuttle into Space: A Ride in America's Space Transportation (1978) The Space Enterprise (1980) The Third Industrial Revolution (1980) [Reviews:Destinies, Jan/Feb 1979 (Volume 1, No. 2); Destinies, Oct/Dec 1979 (Volume 1, No. 5)] Confrontation in Space (1981) Space Power (1981) The Hopeful Future (1983) The Silicon Gods (1984) On the Frontiers of Science (1985) The Untold Story of the Computer Revolution (1985) Handbook for Space Colonists (1985) ICBM (1991) ISBN 0-517-56768 Halfway to Anywhere (1996) The Corporate Survivors (????)
Short Fiction =============
Astounding Science Fiction "Galactic Gadgeteers" [as Harry Stine] ; May 1951, Vol. 47 No 3 "...And A Star to Steer Her By" [as Lee Correy] ; June 1953, Vol. 51 No 4 "Ill Wind" [as Lee Correy] ; December 1953, Vol. 52 No 4 "Pioneer" [as Lee Correy] ; August 1953, Vol. 51 No 6 "Amateur" [as Lee Correy] ; February 1954, Vol. 52 No 6 "Design Flaw" [as Lee Correy] ; February 1955, Vol. 54 No 6 "The Plains of San Augustine" [as Lee Correy] ; April 1955, Vol. 55 No 2 "The Test Stand" [as Lee Correy] ; March 1955, Vol. 55 No 1 "The Education of Icky" [as Lee Correy] ; January 1957, Vol. 58 No 5 "Something in the Sky" [as Lee Correy] ; May 1957, Vol. 59 No 3
SATURDAY EVENING POST Aug. 15, 1953 [title?]
The Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction, November 1955, Volume 9, No. 5, Whole No. 54 "The Brass Cannon" [as Lee Correy]
The Expert Dreamers, 1962; with Frederik Pohl
Analog Science Fiction -> Science Fact, April 1966, Vol. 77 No 2 "The Easy Way Out" [as Lee Correy]
Analog Science Fiction/Science Fact, July 1979, Vol. 99 No 7 "Remodeling of Eve" [as Lee Correy]
Omni, Jan 1980 "The Life of Allie"
Analog Science Fiction/Science Fact, March 1980, Vol. 100 No 3 "Industrial Accident" [as Lee Correy]
Spacefighters; 1988; Charles G. Waugh and Martin H. Greenberg and Joe Haldeman; 0-441-77786-4
Fantastic Universe "Letter from Tomorrow" by Lee Correy; May 1959. "Wireroad" by Correy; Sept. 1956 "Homecoming" by Correy & Wesley; Nov. 1958
Fantastic Story "Greenhorn" by Harry Stine; V4#2, Autum 1952
Open Space
Essay/Article Series ====================
Analog Science Fiction/Science Fact; The Alternate View: 1979 Biocybernetics May, Vol. 99 No. 5 Biocybernetics II July, Vol. 99 No. 7 Neglected Technology September, Vol. 99 No. 9 Sensory Deprivation November, Vol. 99 No. 11 1980 Biocybernetics Revisited February, Vol. 100 No. 2 Riposte to Pournelle March, Vol. 100 No. 3 A Cynic's View of the Moon Treaty May, Vol. 100 No. 5 You Can't Fool Mother Nature July, Vol. 100 No. 7 The Legacy of Sol-IX August, Vol. 100 No. 8 Some Notes About Change November, Vol. 100 No. 11 1981 The Most Valuable Books in the World January, Vol. 101 No. 1 Communication Barrier February, Vol. 101 No. 2 It's A Big Planet March, Vol. 101 No. 4 A Plea for An Anti-Semantic Policy May, Vol. 101 No. 6 More About Those Books July, Vol. 101 No. 8 Save the Earth! September, Vol. 101 No. 10 It's Coming from Outer Space November, Vol. 101 No. 12 1982 Love That Shuttle! January, Vol. 102 No. 1 Get the Wrong People Off the Job March, Vol. 102 No. 3 In Defense of Space May, Vol. 102 No. 5 No Offense Intended? July, Vol. 102 No. 7 Creative Evolution? September, Vol. 102 No. 9 The Next Shortage October, Vol. 102 No. 11 Sexual Discrimination December, Vol. 102 No. 13 1983 Choose Your Poison February, Vol. 103 No. 2 Function vs. Form April, Vol. 103 No. 4 Something's Strange in the System June, Vol. 103 No. 6 The Sky is Going to Fall August, Vol. 103 No. 8 The Technological Problem Game Mid-September, Vol. 103 No. 10 Garbage In, Confusion Out November, Vol. 103 No. 12 1984 Global 2000: "Dead Wrong" January, Vol. 104 No. 1 Memory and Perspective March, Vol. 104 No. 3 What Price the Human Life? April, Vol. 104 No. 4 Change: The New Factor June, Vol. 104 No. 6 The Day Before August, Vol. 104 No. 8 Hot House or Ice Box? October, Vol. 104 No. 10 The Military Ratio December, Vol. 104 No. 12 1985 Coming: Your Best Friend January, Vol. 105 No. 1 Astronomical Ghost Towns March, Vol. 105 No. 3 The Computer Mystique May, Vol. 105 No. 5 The Technological Problem Game 2 July, Vol. 105 No. 7 Education and Leisure Time September, Vol. 105 No. 9 Diabetes and Rockets November, Vol. 105 No. 11 Firing Line Mid-December, Vol. 105 No. 13 1986 System Shenanigans February, Vol. 106 No. 2 The Future of Engineers April, Vol. 106 No. 4 Gun Control June, Vol. 106 No. 6 What is a Scientist? August, Vol. 106 No. 8 Shuttle Down: Quintennial Report October, Vol. 106 No. 10 The Cybernetic Weather Crock December, Vol. 106 No. 12 1987 Frontiers and Wars January, Vol. 107 No. 1 The Fits and Flops of Fuzzy Logic March, Vol. 107 No. 3 Stealth May, Vol. 107 No. 5 Overreaction July, Vol. 107 No. 7 1988 Starting the Fires February, Vol. 108 No. 2 Cities April, Vol. 108 No. 4 Mars: Crisis in Exploration June, Vol. 108 No. 6 Cities and Taxes August, Vol. 108 No. 8 Open-Loop Bureaucracy October, Vol. 108 No. 10 Computer Illiteracy December, Vol. 108 No. 12 1989 Women Drivers January, Vol. 109 No. 1 Cap the Volcanoes! March, Vol. 109 No. 3 The Mystique Beat Goes On May, Vol. 109 No. 5 Technology and Academia July, Vol. 109 No. 7 The Demise of the Toonerville Trolley September, Vol. 109 No. 9 Technology Re-Transfer November, Vol. 109 No. 11 Getting Something Fixed Mid-December, Vol. 109 No. 13 1990 Centennials, Fin de Siecles, and the Millennium February, Vol. 110 No. 3 The Three Dolphin Club April, Vol. 110 No. 5 Skunk Works June, Vol. 110 No. 7 Dieting August, Vol. 110 No. 9 The Senses of History October, Vol. 110 No. 11 Where Have All the Heroes Gone? December, Vol. 110 No. 13 1991 Travel and Tourism January, Vol. 111 No. 1-2 The Kiss of Death March, Vol. 111 No. 4 Quality May, Vol. 111 No. 6 Radar and Lasers, Chow and Rock July, Vol. 111 No. 8-9 Jellyware-Friendly September, Vol. 111 No. 11 Junk, Cultch, and Tools November, Vol. 111 No. 13 Technology and Fun Mid-December, Vol. 111 No. 15 1992 Warning! February, Vol. 112 No. 3 Intermittents April, Vol. 112 No. 5 Wall-to-Wall Data June, Vol. 112 No. 7 The Recession: Blame Technology August, Vol. 112 No. 10 Polluting the Universe October, Vol. 112 No. 12 Where Are the Real Engineers? December, Vol. 112 No. 14 1993 Technology and the Civilized Workplace January, Vol. 113 No. 1-2 The Most Important CD-ROMs in the World March, Vol. 113 No. 4 Life After Heathkits July, Vol. 113 No. 8-9 Cities, Food, and War September, Vol. 113 No. 11 Polluting, Part 2 November, Vol. 113 No. 13 The Moon Pyramid Mid-December, Vol. 113 No. 15 1994 The Empire of Technology February, Vol. 114 No. 3 Energy April, Vol. 114 No. 5 The Rooster Crows at White Sands May, Vol. 114 No. 6 Analysis Paralysis June, Vol. 114 No. 7 Murphy's Law Revisited August, Vol. 114 No. 10 The British Colonial Shipping Board October, Vol. 114 No. 12 Flower Power Flaws December, Vol. 114 No. 14 1995 Palimpset January, Vol. 115 No. 1-2 Letter to a Space Enthusiast March, Vol. 115 No. 4 Beauty and the Beasts May, Vol. 115 No. 6 "Who Needs It?" July, Vol. 115 No. 8-9 Space Newspeak or Kill the Countdown! September, Vol. 115 No. 11 The Issue of Tissue November, Vol. 115 No. 13 Best of Breed Mid-December, Vol. 115 No. 15 1996 Technology and the New Arcadians February, Vol. 116 No. 3 Seldon's Psychohistory April, Vol. 116 No. 5 Tidbits June, Vol. 116 No. 7 Nothing But the Truth August, Vol. 116 No. 10 The Limits on Technology October, Vol. 116 No. 12 Jargon, Slang, and Buzz December, Vol. 116 No. 14 1997 Engineers Exposed! February, Vol. 117 No. 2 The X-33 Decision, Part 1 April, Vol. 117 No. 4 The X-33 Decision, Part 2 June, Vol. 117 No. 6
Essays/Articles ===============
The Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction The Truth of the Matter; November 1956, Vol. 11, No 5 Sputnik: One Reason Why We Lost; January 1958, Vol. 14, No 1
SF:'58: The Year's Greatest Science Fiction and Fantasy Sputnik: One Reason Why We Lost
Sixth Annual Edition: The Year's Best SF, ed. Judith Merril, Dell, 1961 How to Think a Science Fiction Story (Excerpt)
Analog Science Fact -> Fiction Progress Report: Super V-2 Program ; February 1961, Vol. 66 No 6 Report on the Electric Field Rocket ; October 1961, Vol. 68 No 2 Science Fiction is Too Conservative ; May 1961, Vol. 67 No 3 Sub-Mach Rockets ; March 1961, Vol. 67 No 1 Time for Tom Swift ; January 1961, Vol. 66 No 5
Analog Science Fiction -> Science Fact Science Fact: Twin-Planet Probe [as Lee Correy] ; February 1966, Vol. 76 No 6 Science Fact: How the Soviets Did it in Space ; August 1968, Vol. 81 No 6 Science Fact: To Make a "Star Trek" ; February 1968, Vol. 80 No 6
Analog Science Fiction/Science Fact The Big Boosters of the U.S.S.R. ; September 1969, Vol. 83 No 6 The Man Who Makes Planets ; February 1969, Vol. 82 No 6 Some Strange Things Happened at Baykonyr ; October 1970, Vol. 86 No 2 Topological Electronics ; August 1971, Vol. 87 No 6 Pollution Probe ; November 1972, Vol. 90 No 3 A Program for Starflight ; October 1973, Vol. 92 No 2 The Third Industrial Revolution (Part 1 of 2) ; January 1973, Vol. 90 No 5 The Third Industrial Revolution (Part 2 of 2) ; February 1973, Vol. 90 No 6 Detesters, Phasers and Dean Drives ; June 1976, Vol. 96 No 6 How to Get Along With an Extraterrestrial or Your Neighbor ; February 1980, Vol. 100 No 2 Industry Looks at Space ; August 17, 1981, Vol. 101 No 9 Onward to Mars! ; February 1, 1982, Vol. 102 No 2 Special Feature: Proposal for a Proposal ; July 1983, Vol. 103 No 7
Analog Science Fiction and Fact The Coanda Effect ; July 1984, Vol. 104 No 7 State of the Art: Science Fiction is Still Too Conservative! ; January 1985, Vol. 105 No 1 The Dream is Down ; February 1987, Vol. 107 No 2 Laughing All the Way to Orbit [with Wilfred C. Smith] ; February 1988, Vol. 108 No 2 State of the Art: Star Trek Revisited ; November 1988, Vol. 108 No 11 Over-Communicated [with Ben Bova] ; March 1989, Vol. 109 No 3 Comes the Revolution ... ; Mid-December 1993, Vol. 113 No 15 Guest Editorial: Why Build Experimental Vehicles? ; Jun 1995, Vol. 115 No 7 Science Fact: Great Circles and Spaceships, or, Where Is the Center of the World? ; May 1995, Vol. 115 No 6 Been There, Done That, But Should We Do It Again? ; August 1996, Vol. 116 No 10 Will They Let the Spaceships Fly? ; May 1996, Vol. 116 No 6
The Future at War Vol. 3[?]: Thor's Hammer, Reginald Bretnor Defending the Third Industrial Revolution
The Future at War Vol. 3[?]: Orion's Sword, Reginald Bretnor, ISBN: 0-441-25972-3 The Wizard Warriors: Computers and Robots in Warfare (1980)
Far Frontiers Vol. II/Summer 1985, Jim Baen and Jerry E. Pournelle, ISBN: 0-671-55954-0 Cheap Shots
Far Frontiers Vol. VI/Fall 1986, Jim Baen and Jerry Pournelle, ISBN: 0-671-65590-6 In the Wake of Challenger The Space Beat
Omni Industry Goes to Space, April 1979 Ticket to Space, Mar 1979 Space: Making a Cold Cure, Aug 1980 Space: Power Orbiter, Apr 1980 Space: Necklace in the Sky, Feb 1981 Space: Orbital Brainstorming, Nov 1983
The OMNI Book of Computers and Robots, edited by Owen Davies
Destinies Why Go into Space?, Jan/Feb 1979, Volume 1, No. 2 Defending the Third Industrial Revolution, Apr/Jun 1979, Volume 1, No. 3 The Stars Are Waiting, Oct/Dec 1979, Volume 1, No. 5 Faster Than Light, Feb/Mar 1980, Volume 2, No. 1 Locksley Hall, 2050 AD: Prologue to "The Space Enterprise", Spring 1980, Volume 2, No. 2 The Day the Sky Burned, Fall 1980, Volume 2, No. 4
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Gary Crowell / VCP
Oh, I thought I's seen someone post the forth, here it is:
Follet Publishing Co., Chicago; 1976 LC# 75-13852 ISBN 0-695-80615-7 paper ISBN 0-695-80616-5 cloth
Well, I *had* the sixth, but it never came back from a loan. That's the kind of loss I don't mind, since it went to a H.S. student; I like to think it'll get some use. The sixth ed is easy to replace at Amazon.
GC
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Gary Crowell / VCP
There was also a good list of Harry's publications in the handout at his funeral, which I attended. I had saved it, and I recently found it going through some old files. I can make copies for those who are interested.
Chuck Rogers snipped-for-privacy@aol.com
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CRogers168
You just summarized a guy's entire life in one post.
But NO Model Rocketry Magazine references or R&D reports!
Jerry
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Jerry Irvine
Yes Chuck, I would be very interested. Scan & post to abmr? ocr? or snail?
GC
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Gary Crowell / VCP

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