NAR or TRA?

I wasn't necessarily trying to bait you. I just wanted to add my perspective to the converation which obviously didn't coincide with yours.

ie I think constructive criticism is preferable to being a mealy mouth.

I wasn't baiting you at all. I was just curious why your opinions are so anti NAR if you really are supposedly a NAR officer. I guess I was thinking the "H" word. Whatever...

Gee I guess everyone is trying to bait you. I guess it is a bummer to be so kick ass.

Correct. Not with him...

You actually fly rockets? Huh. I thought you just pontificated :-)

This may be a valid point so here's my story.

In 2002, I wanted to do my L3 Certification. At that time, I was only a member of NAR. I couldn't find a NAR L3CC member but a TRA TAP (thanks to Ray Halm) told me he would would do it if I were to join TRA. So even knowing the history of TRA according to RMR, I decided to join so I could get my L3 cert. I did get my L3 Cert in July 2002.

I joined around Feb or March of 2002. That summer was the LDRS where Bruce Kelly was not reelected. I saw this as a positive step. It was also around that time that the TRA Private Forum stared. The forum has had many heated discussions over quite a few subjects that have been discussed here. Sometimes the BoD agreed with me & sometimes not. What I feel is the key is that at least they consider what people say & try to make the best descision they can. What more can you ask for?

There are still things (like HPR) that I don't agree with. One thing that they changed my mind on was weather they should reveal the entire insurance policy. NAR hasn't revealed theirs either. I was given a very good reason that I promised not to reveal, but it changed my mind. My point is that no one gets their way 100% of the time & we have to be open minded enough to consider the perspective of others. I am not closed minded.

There are several BoD members whom I've come to trust & respect. So, I gues those few individual have managed to body snatch me. I look forward to seeing them in about a week.

Generally, TRA isn't any better or worse than NAR. Just different.

I knew that. I just wanted to help Bob &Jerry's relationship by letting them share their hate for the common enemy.

I'll bet "Big Fine" wusses out.

If he doesn't, I'm sure we'd all like to meet him in person.

Stop thinking.

That seems to be "normal" in consumer rocketry administration.

Jerry

Sorry if I offened you. If that's all it takes, you may want to consider not taking ANYTHING so seriouly.

Stop pontificating.

What does this mean? Quit beating around the bush.

Clear skies we had some, no wind..? LOL i'm in the midwest there's no damn such thing, but we did have the midwest equivalent to no wind.. that's winds less than 10mph...

My ego don't give a chit jerry i'm just flyin for fun, hope you can bring more in than you push out, 1,000 in a month sounds great..

Nope, never heard of such an animal, remember i'm new to the rocketry world. Did however fly my first 54mm motor which was a step for me and it was great, loved the nerves getting bunched up.. think they gave me a wedgy though.

I think we had 11 different birds up, from 1.3" diameter up to 4". 23" length to 85" length, 24mm to 54mm.. but then you know all that already you've already checked the launch page..

Give me more info on the G008, will they be certified soon or are they an expired cert kind of motor..? I've never seen zeros before the number before, so that's a G motor with average thrust of 8 newtons? Must be a damn long burning motor..

Three. If you're into competitions, then you're just not gonna be happy in Tripoli, as they don't offer them. That's a big deal to the folks who are into that.

-Kevin

As soon as they throw out the lyers and crooks.

Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD!

Ask someone on the BOD for a copy of my expulsion letter. Kelly sent it (along with a copy of my personal check) to a bunch of folks, including at least one person who has never been a member of TRA.

Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD!

It asn't an issue of kids. It was an issue of tying up range time wit little rockets. Not that it was ever an issue or that it wasn't caused by sloppy range operations. In fact I offered to get some NIRA folks to help out and set up a parallel range to offload all the small stuff, and was turned down.

BTW, the day of the launch the ceiling was 800'. Since no one brought any small stuff, they went ahead and flew HPR that disappeared intot he clouds, maybe to return a minute or so later under chute. They'd rather violate their waiver and FARs than fly "little rockets".

Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD!

Which I will continut to do as long as TRA management continues to keep its head burried in the sand, and pretend that everything always has been perfect. As soon as the TRA BOD takes action against those that have actually harmed the organization and it's members, I'll resubmit a membership application.

Or they could just process the renewal I sent in that they refused to allow.

Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD!