[PROOF] TRA endorses HPR magazine frauds

[PROOF] TRA endorses HPR magazine frauds

Path: sn-us!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!01rocket From: Jerry Irvine Newsgroups: rec.models.rockets Subject: Re: ROL NEWS--Tripoli Approves whateverthe hell it wants to Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 10:36:48 -0800 Organization: Box 1242, Claremont, CA 91711 Message-ID: References:

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In article , kaplow snipped-for-privacy@encompasserve.org.TRABoD (Bob Kaplow) wrote:

In article , Dave Grayvis > writes: > > Crm WAS a quarterly, black and white publication. > > Promise 4, pay for 4, get 4 would be an improvement over the past DECADE of > mismanagement by TRA / HPR. > > I find it amazing that based on one misdeed Jerry's been banned from TRA for > over a decade. Based only on WORDS POSTED TO RMR, I (and others) get booted. > Yet someone who has repeatedly defrauded TRA members for a decade is given > chance after chance, yet still continues to promise more than he can > deliver. And no one in TRA management gets the hint. > > What would TRA management do if Jerry repeatedly delivered half of what he > had promised and members had paid for? Give him another chance to try to do > better? What if his son was sick, or he couldn't make his mortgage balloon > payment? > > Only in his wildest dreams could Jerry con as many people for as much money > as HPR has done to TRA members. >

Here's hard proof:

Tripoli Board of Directors Meeting Summary Teleconference of October 5, 2004 Present: Ken Good, Pat Gordzelik, Bruce Lee, Bob Schoner, Terry McCreary, Derek Deville, Bill Davidson, Dick Embry, Chuck Rogers Absent: none Proxies: none Executive Session Summary: The purpose of the call was to examine the current situation with HPR magazine deliveries and decide required actions. During 2003, approval had been given to HPR to move to a twelve-issue per year production scheme, along with other earlier changes that simplified the accounting of HPR subscription funds received through TRA memberships. Ken Good presented the Board an assessment that showed as of September 30, 2004, only four of the promised twelve 2004 issues had been confirmed as dis- tributed, with a fifth in the process of currently being distributed. The Board expectation is that nine of the twelve should have already been pro- duced, and it was apparent that the twelve-issue per year commitment could not be met. Extensive e-mail on this topic had been exchanged among the Board, and Ken and other Board members had been in com- munication with Bruce Kelly to ascertain what options were available to get HPR on track. Decision Outline: o HPR Publisher Bruce Kelly was unable to assure the Board that 12- issues could be produced in 2004, although it appeared that several other issues could be produced by year's end. o Options available to the Board were to sever the relationship with HPR or re-evaluate the relationship and find a way to continue with HPR, while enabling ongoing performance and no default of what subscribers had paid for. o Severing the relationship results in no immediate magazine alter- natives, money owed to subscribers, and a problem of finding/creat- ing a replacement publication. o While 12-issues per year is not realistic, a lower number, like the previous 9-issue scheme looks feasible.. o A detailed proposal for the Board to consider that would permit HPR to continue was presented by Chuck Rogers, based on previous Board e- mail input/concerns. This was discussed and largely adopted. The final proposal that was unanimously supported includes: o HPR reverts to a nine (9) issue per year production cycle. o HPR may increase subscription rates to $5.50 per issue as the reg- ular delivery discount rate for TRA members. This will permit the magazine to retain reasonable profitability, and thus enable the publisher to remain in business. o All subscribers who paid for twelve issues would still receive twelve, and the publisher will be required to extend their subscription peri- ods to ensure this occurs.. o Since no formal contract or agreement had ever been executed between TRA and HPR after it was spun off to Bruce Kelly many years earlier (and much difficulty and misunderstanding had result- ed in recent years because of this), a formal contract will be drafted and executed between the parties. Pat Gordzelik will draft the con- tract, and it will be signed by Ken Good and Bruce Kelly. Submitted by Ken Good, TRA President

Good is bad.

Jerry

> Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD"
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Jerry Irvine
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Then I assume you do not see, or perhaps disregard, all the events that have preceeded today?

You see ONLY THIS announcement and events going forward and have intrinsic faith that the leaders and service providers will ALL do the right thing?

I will be really curious to see your response.

Thank you.

Jerry

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Jerry Irvine

You offered that one stement as proof positive of TRA fraud, etc, etc.

That statement offers nothing of the sort.

Does TRA have problems? You bet. Has Bruce Kelly screwed up royally? Looks like it. Am I a TRA member? No.

Does your offered "proof" contain any proof? No.

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Gus

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