Sealed military record?

OK, so what's the "criterion for victory"? Nobody trying to knock down our buildings with intentional airplane-crashes? (Hmmm.... _that_ hasn't happened in over three years now.)

-dave w

As you noted some time ago this is yet another "war on . . .".

So can we kill the wars on poverty and drugs now so poverty and illegal drug use can vaporize for real?

Jerry

although I'm sure it makes you feel all warm and fuzzy to believe yourself such a superior being...til that nutjob with the tire iron shows up.

Hum, this said to a "martial pacifist" that holds a black belt, has put his hand and head through cider blocks (impressive looking but wood is the trickier to go through), taught the same, and more importantly I'm the one the nutjobs come to for advice on acting crazy. Best defense in the world, no one messes with a loony, especially a confident one. ;-) The superior acting beings are the ones that haven't killed up close and personal. Been there before, can be again without any hesitation if the need requires. I just don't wish to ever consider the option as long as there's a viable alternative. Ball's in your court on this one.

As intentionally as your Fraudian Slip Up with the Phallic Spud "dick-tater". Illustrates mental laziness quite nicely, yes? Else I'll have to admit I'm not perfect and my ego assures me that's not the case. ;-)

BTW, what did YOU fly last and am planning to fly next? That's a hint, these digressions are ok but it's time to talk more about rocketry again.

Chuck

Jerry Irvine wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@corp.supernews.com:

I use an answering machine on my landline,it eliminates most of them.

Phil Stein wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

That's not the way it worked in 2000 when the DemocRATs began whining,and they still haven't ceased whining about the 2000 elections,evidence to the contrary.That's a large part about their hatred of Bush.

Tweak wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@news.giganews.com:

Most of the nations of Planet Earth have no such thing as "rule of law",or "rules of 'society'".If you are not part of their group,you are sub-human and anything goes. That's how Al-Queda justifies their beheadings. That's why the UN is a joke.

I agree with the above posting. But it goes beyone torture being counterproductive. Torture is immoral and someone should be held accountable. Indeed, if the administration had anything to do with the situation the moral failing is two-fold: 1) we tortured; 2) we encouraged our young people to torture.

This is what the Washington Post wrote recently:

Remember Abu Ghraib? Friday, October 15, 2004; Page A22

IN THE PAST few weeks the presidential candidates have debated almost every aspect of the war on terrorism save one: the handling of detainees in Iraq and Afghanistan. That is a remarkable omission, if only because the shocking photographs of abuses at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq, and reports of hundreds of other cases of torture and homicide in Iraq and Afghanistan, have done grave damage to the United States' ability to combat extremism in the Muslim world. There is, too, something important to debate: whether the United States will return to adhering to the Geneva Conventions and other international rules governing the treatment of foreign prisoners, or whether the war on terrorism justifies the violation of international law in certain cases. President Bush clearly intends to preserve the current, exceptional policies he adopted after Sept. 11, 2001, despite the abuses to which they led.

Mr. Bush is obviously eager to avoid the subject of prisoner detentions. Maybe that's because his public stance on what happened at Abu Ghraib, and what caused it, is entirely at odds with the facts brought out by official investigations. When he last spoke of the matter, months ago, the president maintained that the abuse was the responsibility of a few low-ranking soldiers working the night shift. He has not acknowledged that scores of soldiers have now been implicated for crimes including homicide, or that a Pentagon-appointed panel has found responsibility at senior levels of the Pentagon, the Justice Department and the White House. Nor has he held anyone in his administration accountable.

I say that because of how unmovable the Bush fans seem to be this time around.

Aside from the Florida thing, the cRats don't have much to complain about. The system worked as designed. Still, I'd sure like to know what the true counts would have been. To bad we never will.

P o i n t .

Point.

I see a big difference between crying and whining. Being a Bush supporter, I would have and still might end up crying if he losses, but I am NOT going to whin. I will be said for our country and our world, but I am not going to whin about it, I am not going to hold it over Kerry's head for four years, I am going to move forward with my life and hope that any damage that Kerry tried to inflect on the USA can be contained by Congress.

On the other hand, the Gore supporters are STILL whining about

It seems to me that both sides are "unmovable", but then it seems that is the case every 4 years.

Maybe.

Completely UNTRUE! It is very possible to get a general discharge. That means you are not in trouble, but just so-so. It is sort of like: You did not want to be in the military any more and they did not want you any more, but you did NOT do something that broke the law and called for a court martial.

Is the story true? Don't know. Is it possible, YES! My point in posting: enlighten folks about a general discharge

If that piece of horse s*it (Kerry) gets elected it will not be business as usual. You can count on an attack within 6 months with more to follow while Kerry walks around with his thumb up his ass trying to figure out who to blame and which country's ass he should kiss next for guidance.

What is driving the Muslims is pure hate. Hate of Jews, hate of Christians, hate of anything not Muslim. They built their Temple of the Dome right over the Temple of David. Kerry and the soft heads don't understand hate and they will pay with our lives and probably the Republic will pay too.

I see... but they won't attack us if Bush is president, because he "understands hate"?

(Well, it's good to know that man understands _something_...)

-dave w

Well we now know we are "safe".

From Roquerre anti-Kerry rants and of course . . .

they won't attack us if Bush is president, because he "understands hate".

And the only "price" was a police state, massive reductions in civil rights, and a policy of war.

No problem! :-(

Should have voted for me :)

THAT is the most destructive fact of life in USA for the past 4 years. Even GORE admitted Bush was properly and legally elected. His supporters refused to listen!!

Jerry

Syria?

Nope. Iran. Once Bush has 3 in a row, he can start building houses and hotels.

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