[TMT] Never honored policy

No, No, No, Yes.

:)

yes, I was thinking of

Pat Gordzelik elected 2003 Terry McCreary elected 2002

I haven't heard all that much from the new Secretary, but from what little I have heard it appears that his heart is in the right place

Bob Schoner elected 2003

everyone else has apparently been around since at least 1998

anybody have the tenure of these current members (number of consecutive and total years in the BoD) ?

Chuck Rogers re-elected 2003 Dick Embry re-elected 2002 Ken Good re-elected 2002 Bruce Lee re-elected 2001 Bill Davidson re-elected 2001 Derek DeVille re-elected 2001

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TNG w/Q

Probably more accurate or the salem witch trials. Except I keep not dying.

I must be a witch.

Jerry

I usually judge people based on a collection of opinions rather than mine alone because if nothing else I recognize I am imprefect, biased, and angry. But these two are universally hated, apparantly except by the electorate (the

Bob, I said that there have been complaints and accusations against BK regarding the magazine, just as there have been against Jerry and his former magazine. Period. Those are facts regardless of whether the complaints and accusations against either person are justified or accurate.

wasn't there a truck in there too somewhere?

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Bob Kaplow wrote:

I was thinking the same thing once Mr. Grayvis showed up, that 'someone' is very nervous and desperate to shut down the lines of inquiry which have been productive over the past few weeks

by any means necessary

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David We> Funny how there's a flock of them showing up all

"Mr. Anderson, why won't you die?" - Agent Smith in Matrix II

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I want to acknowledge that David W. has assured me that censorhip will not be practiced on the TRA listserv

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All hail jerry bovine, rocket DOG!

Here'sthe difference.

The complaints against me were for amagazine start-up that never started up (at the time) but some people INSISTED on subscribing anyway to "support it". Fine. When I decided to start refunding those people, TRA got wind of it (of course,they follow my life in excricuating detail and still do), and had an INQUISITION at the ANNUAL MEETING (the public kind not the private kind). To DISCREDIT me. I informed the gathered masses what I said above, two people rose to support me, which annoyed the BOD who cut them off and presented their LENGTHY prepared two witnesses of shills who subscribed especially so they could do somethig like this if it did not go, which they/it did. They spoke in hysterics over a simple $15 purchase that after waiting 90 days, were informed they would receive a refund on within another 90days, which they did.

But the public beating was the point not the $15 or the fact I was "doing the right thing".

Bruce Kelly on the other hand charges some $60-70 for a magazine he delivers perhaps 2-3 times a year after promising 9, and now delivers essentially 0-1 after promising 12! And is he put before a "public inquisition with prepared hysterical witnesses"? Nope.

He is given a life membership, offered to retain all positions EXCEPT TRA President and even told, "well now we will just have to give you ALL of the magazine monies we receive instead of merely the money forthe current issue you fail to produce and deliver", time after time after time.

Fairly LARGE difference in treatment and initial and final conditions I would say and HARD EVIDENCE of malfeasance at TRA.

Jerry

Agreed. But look at TRA's response to these accusations. And in the case of BK, do is there any doubt that he has yet to fufil his financial commitment to the members? Do you know where the money went for the missing magazines? How big has your refund check been each year?

Please sit down and calculate, based on issues promised and paid for vs delivered, EXACTLY how much money TRA/BK owes YOU PERSONALLY. And then do the same for Jerry Irvine. Post your answers here, and let us know how long it takes YOU to collect from either of these characters.

Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD!

Please! Please! Please! Please! Please! Please!

Jerry

I haven't requested one.

Far as I'm concerned, neither of them owe me anything. In Jerry's case, I was never even a subscriber.

Nope! Show us a Copy of this exlusive license, can't? I thought so. Oh, and what of your claim of ACS propellant as your supplier?

Jerry replied:

Wrong again. It's right here in the June 1991 Tripolitan. There are seven USR motors listed as certified.

Was that the issue where the cover is a pic of everyone from LDRS Blackrock? The reason I ask I think I might have that that issue. 'Might' as in I used to have it up until the city sewage decided to pay a visit in my basement :(

Ted Novak TRA#5512

Nope, the June 1991 issue has a WAC Corporal on the cover, with coverage of a Danville launch.