Trouble with RocSim 7.0

Oct 04, 2003 16 Replies

I've been a long time RocSim user. Started with version 4 and later upgraded to version 5. I skipped version 6, but just last week I upgraded to version



  1. The exact version I run is version 7.0.1.0. I am running it under WindowsaXP/SP1 with all current patches.

The problem is when running the 12th simulation (sim #11, numbering starts with 0) on a rocket, the system hangs with 100% CPU usage. I have to use Task Manager to kill the program.



Is anyone else having this problem? Anyone know of a solution?



...Fred


I don't have any problems. I also run windows XP/SP1 andRocksim 7. What are the stats of your computer???

I just ran 14 sims with RockSim 7.0.1.0, installed without a previous version (new to it). My computer didn't lock up like yours and the numbering did not reset to zero on the

11th sim. I'm running XP Home Edition Service Pack 1, all patches on a Dell Dimension 8200 with a 2GHz CPU and 512 MB of RAM.

Not sure if that helps, perhaps Apogee could get you squared away.

Fred,

Whats type of video card do you have in your computer or is it on board video ( Hint: cheap computer )? Your Video card may not be able to handle the graphics that the 3-D part of the program requires& quite possiblely be your problem.....

JD

This thing definitely takes some decent video resources. I had a hang-up while rotating a design in 3-d wireframe. My problem was definitely video. I haven't had the 12 sim hangup, though. I guess I should break down and install that other video card that's lying around here somewhere.

-- Eric Benner

I've done some more analysis since my first post. It is not necessarily the

12th simulation, but rather changes in the horizontal and vertical scroll bars simulation results list on the flight simulation tab. The problem occurs when the list changes from neither scroll bars to both scoll bars either to show the results from a new simulation or show simulations as a file loads.

My system will hang with 100% utilization when a simulation is run in this specific case:

- There are neither horizontal or vertical scroll bars in simulation result list.

- But the list is just the right height so that one more simulation result whill force the vertical scroll bar to be displayed.

- AND the list box is just wide enough so that the horizontal space the verical scroll bar will occupy forces the horizontal scroll bar on.

It will NOT hang when I run a simulation in all the following cases:

- When either or both scroll bars are already displayed.

- When new there is sufficient vertical space so results from the simulation can be displayed without a vertical scroll bar.

- When I manually resize window height in such a way to force on the veritcal scroll bar even if this forces on the horizontal scroll bar.

- When the result window is just the right height so that one more simulation result whill force the vertical scroll bar to be displayed so long as either the horizontal scroll bar is already displayed or the window is sufficently wide so that the vertical scroll bar can be displayed without forcing on the horizontal bar.

My problem may be video card/driver related, but I suspect has more to do with the Java control rather than RocSim7 itself. I have a NVIDA GeForce4 MX

420 with latest drivers.

I've reported the problem with full details to Apogee.

...Fred

sounds to me like you found a really wacky and hidden "glitch" in the software that takes VERY specific conditions to cause it to occur.

I will try it and see what happens.

ok just tried it.

my version is 7.0.0.0 so this might be important.

no joy nothing happened.

I opened a stock rocksim file (vopix ?? or something like that)

I resized the window so that the 3 sims their occuppied all the space WITHOUT scroll bars so that the addition of one more sim line would generate BOTH scroll bars (this is correct right ?)

it did the sim and added the line and bars with no harm done. worked fine.

how did you get something higher than 7.0.0.0 ?

I will also check his site for updates

Thanks for trying Chris. I didn't expect that you'd duplicate the problem. Even though conditions must be just so, given the popularity of RockSim, you'd think others would have run into it sooner or later.

I just upgraded to version 7 last week, version 7.0.1.0 is what was sent.

...Fred

Fred, I tried all this on my copy of RockSim 7.0.1 and it does not fail. I am running win2k, completely updated, with intel 845 onboard graphics.

what OS are you running? do you want to try to update the video driver?

Fred Taverni wrote:

Doesn't happen on my laptop (Win XP, Rocksim 7.01), even if I've got the Extigy Soundblaster and Oxygen8 keyboard plugged in to the USB ports and Sonar 2.2 running a heavy midi file in the background. The simulation was slowed down, and I'm getting midi dropouts, but no hanging.

Zooty

I had an older version of Rocsim running on a Celeron 300A with an old ISA Trident 1M video card. While some of the razzel dazzel was poor, it was stable.

Alan

A friend of mine had some freezing problems with RocSim 7 and XPsp1. I'm not sure at what point it occured, though. He backed off a little on the "hardware acceleration" and it worked like a charm after that.

The setting can be found by right clicking the desktop then: properties, settings, advanced, troubleshoot. There should be a slider bar to adjust it.

tim

Just got an Email from Paul Fossey (RockSim programmer). Says he was able to reproduce problem and track the bug to the grid control. The fix should be included in version 7.0.2, which will be out shortly.

That'a the kind a service that has made RockSim and Apogee everyone's favorite.

mostly! except, I've been waiting for Rocksim 7.0.2 for 5 months.

7.0.1 has some intolerable annoyances and bugs.

here's hoping much of that is fixed in '0.2

Name 3

printing is screwed up (templates are not placed in the printable area and are clipped at the edges)

fin designer crashes

can't modify an existing simulation. how many times have you wanted to click on a sim and do it again but only change the motor/wind/launch angle/payload/etc. and rerun the sim? seems like I'm always doing that.

can't run >1 copy of rocksim at a time - the program is not built to "share" its databases

modified stock parts are not flagged - the parts list says this is a PML

3.9" ring but is it really? why is there no hole in the middle? that sort of thing.

to his credit Paul says he has fixed most of the things on my list - but I am still waiting.

... regarding all this, remember: Rocksim is excellent and Paul and Tim are real Good Guys.

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