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I consider throwing away the constutional rights of US citizens to be both an "act" of war against us AND to be "aiding" the goals of our enemies (who
desire to see us without our way of life)
I would say that makes him a traitor by definition then.
Chris Taylor http://www.nerys.com /

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I suggest you schedule another date with your Judge friend and ask about this. I think you will find that you are wrong. Ask him/her about:
Section 9, Clause 2 of the U.S. Constitution. "The privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it. " I don't see the clause that says we have to be at war or that the invasion come from an enemy (i.e. Nation (like treason)), by the way.
And while you're there, ask about "aiding the goals" verses "aiding". And list the countries which we are at war with. And get some case law to back up you position.
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what about the part of the constitution that makes it our duty to protect this nation from all enimies inside and out (different words)
Either way I classify him as a traitor.
Chris Taylor http://www.nerys.com /

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Chris,
It's a pity that you don't know what you're talking about...
The President is just about the only single individual in the United States who CAN'T commit treason. He is the ONE individual who is charged with executing the laws of the United States. You can't even charge him with a crime, you can only 'impeach' him. Furthermore, he could be conducting business with Osama himself, and it could be considered 'executing the laws' of the United States. The best you could hope for is that the Congress would not fund an action that he takes, or that the Supreme Court would (retroactively, of course) declare something that he does to be illegal. Even then, as long as he doesn't do the same exact action again, he's not breaking the law, because the 'checks and balances' system of the Constitution sets the President OUTSIDE of the normal 'legal' system.
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Are Senators who promote socialism at the expense of the Constitution also traitors? Since they are betraying their oath to defend and protect the Constitution of the United States should they be so classified?
How about lawyers, judges, politicians who allow agencies, such as, CPS to rape parents of their Constitutional Rights in the name of safety?
I think, their are a whole bunch of people who need to be rounded up for sedition and conspiracy to undermine the Constitution of the United States and Bush is not one of them. In fact, why don't we piss on Kennedy who got us into the Vietnam War? Johnson who like to Americans about the war for 6 years and his gang of liars Kissinger and McNamara! Let's start cleaning house with the liars and gangsters who have allowed immigrants to practice religions hostile to Constitutional government, as well as, those who hate the United States and are loyal to Mexico and want to dismember the nation which includes several Senators and Congressmen at the state and federal level.
Let's put these bastards away first, okay!

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Raping individuals is not an attack on the constitution its an attack on an individual (and I do believe they should be roasted for doing so)
but bush did was an ORDER of magnitude larger (MANY orders of magnitude)
he made a NATIONAL LAW that is ALL EMCOMPASING that has literally turned the constitution into a rag to be upheld on their whim.
and this is LEGAL. sure they can just DO IT anytime they want but now they can do it LEGALLY
That is DISTINCTLY different.
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So what are you going to do about it?
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as much as I can within My means.
I will at the absolute Minimum NOT vote for him again. I will certaintly speak with others about it to hopefully keep them from voting for him.
and anything else "legal" I can think of or is presented to me.
I even sent a letter to the whitehouse asking why he is destroying the constitution.
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That's right. Short of a 2/3's vote of all of congress ONLY the president can make law. Congress (not counting a 2/3's vote to override a veto) makes BILLS
the president signs them "MAKING" them law.
the buck stops there.
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You accepted your neighbor the business man having rights stripped, you were happy to see farmer stripped of their rights of how to use their land, you were happy to see rents drop even though this required stripping owners of their rights, now it is your turn.
Parents denied their Constitutional Rights because of a perceived emergency, millions of property owners denied their Constitutional Rights based on "Emergency Declarations" in California, New York and, soon, Massachusetts again. You whine because your rights have been subverted based on the argument that there is an emergency requiring a suspension of rights. You hypocrite!
You are only bitching because you see it as an attack on your freedom and Constitutional Rights. You and your kind had no problem with laws that destroy two million plus parents mowed under by CPS yearly which comes to 20 million people in ten years! You have no problem with millions of property owner have had their property stolen and their Constitutional Rights trampled on by socialists declaring "Forever Emergencies". When people like you allowed the Constitution to be pissed on one piece at a time, where you so stupid as to think it would not come to this! It is simply the next step. FOOL!
Again, my response - good. I am glad. I want you to join the rest of us in Hell! I have no sympathy for you or your kind. I don't give a damn. I will resist any effort by people like you to stop anything. Join the crowd. Now,it is your turn. See how you like it.

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I picked this example out of context because it is indicitive of rights slip on many different fronts.
The threshold of "permissible activity" has changed AND the level of tolerance of what constitutes a "fauxpau" or a "crime" has changed, AND the level of revenge in terms of punishment haschanged. Allto the more restrictive, less forgiving, and more punative.
This "trifecta" of rights crash will show this historical period among the worst in "modern times"for rights.
Jerry
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I have no sympathy for the likes of you.
by the way the likes of you are trolls.
I accepted nothing you claim I did.
My dad has his VERY well doing buisness of 25 years TAKEN from him under Eminent Domain for what ? A prison they wanted to build in the middle of philadelphia.
they never BUILT the damned thing. So he sued them. THEN they built it. Figure they would rather build the freaking thing than give him his land back.
So go rot in hell all by yourself.
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I would estimate that arguement escapes 70% of the population. I cite our rights situation in the country as evidence.
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Irrelevant if the equipment in question (transmitter and receiver) are poorly designed.
A 2.4GHZ transmitter could easily have an IF in the VHF range, some of which can make it through to the antenna--which could desense nearby receivers operating in VHF.
De-sense is a hard problem to combat in receivers. Even when there's adequate front-end filtering, significant work must be done to shield (for example) AGC lines and the AGC detector from stray RF fields, lest they sense the wrong thing, and turn down the gain on the front end.
Non-linear circuit elements in the output path of a VHF transmitter can easily generate *powerful* harmonics extending up into the GHZ. If you don't believe me, put a coupla hundred milliwatts into a step-recovery diode at 144MHZ, and look at the output on a spectrum analyzer sometime. You'd be amazed.
FCC certifications (and the matching Industry Canada certs up here) are there for a reason. Cheap RF equipment is often very poorly designed, with spurious emissions that can seriously screw up other users either in the same band, or other, unrelated bands.
The doctrine of "if it's only 100mW, it isn't regulated" is very band-specific, both in the US, and in Canada. You really can get fined, fairly heavily, even if you're only putting out 50mW. Imagine interfering with emergency services transmissions, for example.
I once got a call from a (polite but firm) Industry Canada/Department of Communications "sniffer". One of the amateur repeater transmitters I was responsible for had suddenly developed a spur (spurious transmission at something other than its nominal operating frequency) that was knocking out a commercial radio communications network used by hundreds of businesses in the Ottawa area. You can bet that I dropped what I was doing at my day job, and headed up to the site to turn the damn thing off. We weren't fined. But if it had happened repeatedly, DOC would probably have instituted an "action"...
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Exactly. If I find I am interfering I simply stop doing it.
I agree with frequent offenders IE that ignore issues and keep doing it. Fine the hell out of them.
but the power level we are dealing with here is so pathetic that background noise would cause more problems than my transmitter.
and then you have to consider the NATURE of our hobby makes interference even LESS likely. we are in the middle of a large vacant field !! usually in the outskirts of a tow or in rural areas.
the likely hood of problematic interference is so small that I argue that is is for all intents and purposes ZERO.
NOW when you UP the power over a watt to transmit from large high flying HPR rockets.
OK now we are talking a very different beats and I agree. NOW your signal can escape your sphere of influence with enough power to "maybe" cause a problem.
in your example you did the right thing. you stopped the transmitter till you could have it fixed. everyone is happy.
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Your 100mW signal leaves your transmitter at a level that is about 55-60dB above the sensitivity limits of a garden-variety modern VHF or UHF receiver. For an isotropic radiation pattern, that signal drops in power density with the cube of the distance from the transmitter, so things do drop off fairly quickly.
Your typical receiver is sensitive down to 0.25uV or so, which for a 50ohm input impedance corresponds to about 10e-13 to 10e-14 watts at the input.
Ain't no such thing as an isotropic radiator, however. It's a fiction intended to make BOE calculations easier.
So, let's take your 100mW (0.1W) signal and see how it looks 1km away, in terms of power. Assuming a perfect cube law, it's now being seen at something like 10e-9 to 10e-11 watts. Oh dear.
Chris, I do recreational microwave design, and radio astronomy. One of my receivers is sensitive down to about 100Jy, which corresponds to about 10e-24 watts at the input. That's without using anything terribly exotic or mysterious. No oscillator overthrusters, anti-matter/matter converters, Klingon cloaking devices, alien warp drive units, etc...
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I guess you don't plan to be working for the Democratic Party anytime soon.

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I disagree.
Laws are created by man and are theirfore prone to being flawed.
IF they made having books illegal tommorrow would I then be a bad person for hiding mine ?
Criminal yes a bad person no.
same thing.
I personally have a problem with anyone telling me what I can and can not do with the energy flowing throughout the universe that no one can claim ownership of.
I see the need on some levels but on others it bothers me a lot.
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I believe it has to be over 1000mw to qualify. otherwise, it falls into the realm of garage door openers, wireless microphones, and car locators.
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