New UK SIG Group

Nov 26, 2003 24 Replies

A new SIG group has been started, Royal Air Force from it's inception to present day, further details on

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Dale



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Hi Dale,

You know, modellers are not all IPMS members, and some are interesting, even they aren't IPMS members ! ;o)

Regards

To join an IPMS SIG you have to be an IPMS member.

HTH Andy

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"Andy Macrae" a formulé la demande :

Hi Andy, that's ok, but on the page I don't see any IPMS mention...

Sorry Chris,

IPMS rules apply I am afraid, as it is under their umbrella...

Dale

Fly> Il se trouve que "Dale" a formulé :

It was updated yesterday but due to isp problems not updated, should be correct now...

Dale

Fly> "Andy Macrae" a formulé la demande :

Le 26/11/2003, "Dale" a supposé :

Ok Dale, Thanks for the resply

Regards

And that's *exactly* why I keep the 32SIG separate from IPMS (although I am a member of the latter).

Regards,

Iain

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And which is why i visit your site not IPMS ones(although a member, i like modelling websites for the free and poor)

Why is this? You can, after all, attend an IPMS UK branch meeting if you're not an IPMS member as long as that branch has at least 5 current IPMS members.

Steve, IPMS UK FAA SIG Leader

HTH Andy

There have to be some elements of IPMS that are IPMS-only ... or why have an IPMS at all? If IPMS cannot attract members by offering member-only benefits, then it's 'goodbye IPMS and no Nationals'. However, people are perfectly able to set up interest groups of their own. The Jackal Squadron is one, as is the SOGGIES/TOGGIES.

Nige. IPMS(UK) Webmaster

I haven't done the SOGGIES/TOGGIES for some time now Nigel! Be nice to resurrect it though...

Steve

"Nigel Eastmond" a couché sur son écran :

Hi Nigel,

When I wrote my message, I did not wish create a debate. I had not simply seen (and do not see moreover always) the logo of the IMPS on the page of this SIG.

On the other hand, it adorned to me a pity to cut the members of the IPMS of the other modellers. I am myself the former member of IPMS France which I left down for a very for a long time because I had an unpleasant sensation of club elitist and contemptuous towards the others "eaters of plastic" but it is your problem, not mine.

For example, it happened that documents came to members of the IMPS from "non IPMS clubs and the IPMS wanted then to have the exclusivity of it!

However, it would be certainly interressant that the IPMS asks a simple question: " why it created so much club dissidants of the IPMS? " Answer would be very interesting nevertheless certainly. This question should moreover be asked by the leaders of all the sections IMPS, not only in UK IMHO.

The reason i want join again(just run out) is that i have to send a SAE with my 20quid, i expect to get my card out of the fee, like i do with my card club etc, send write out a envelope and stick a stamp to get it back.

1) They won't know that unless you write and tell them. 2) It takes you perhaps one minute to stamp and self-address an envelope. If you do it, you guarantee the address is correct and stamp is stuck. If the membership secretary does it, they have to spend more than 1 minute per envelope to be sure of getting it right (translating writing etc). Say 25 a week, that's way more than 25 minutes less from their time when they could be spending it sorting out all the changes of address and bank details. 3) If it's about the 30p-odd cost of an SAE as opposed to a £20 annnual membership, I'm very puzzled.

Nick

Which i intend to do.

I am in many clubs, and each one sends me thecard and envelope, stamp out of my membership, its the principle, yes i now how long it takes, but any decent club has your name on a puter and prints out a lable in seconds.

I dont see why i should pay a fee, and then pay for my own stamp to get the card.

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As someone who regularly helps run large events (mainly Scout camps etc), I must say that I wouldn't touch the running of the IPMS Nats if I also had to pay for the accommodation. If I was to give up around a week of my time to run something I wasn't getting paid for but was being enjoyed by hundreds of others I would expect something in return, if that means free b&b then so be it.

Very true. As I didn't have to pay for entry this year I will consider renewing my membership more than if I'd had to pay *as well as being a member*. Still not sure if it's worth the £20 though.

Nick Pedley P.S. I need some FAA reference books, can you tell me what's best by email please?

Since I was the initial poster, i will comment. This is not my decision, but IPMS, I have to agree with several other posters that it would be a way of introducing new members but there again IPMS members should have priviligies. I am also a member of other groups which have the same policies and they succeed. What it all comes down too is the simple fact is percieved value for money, should the IPMS commitee be thinking of how to improve this notion. The RAF SIG will be there for IPMS members who are interested in that genre, i will keep an eye on it and if it seems that it is affecting the membership then i will discuss it with the other original start up members about opening it out. But going by other yahoo groups dealing with anything RAF there will not be much in the way of correspondance as people want something for nothing now. A very sad fact of the internet...

Dale

Also, the committee HAVE to be there at 8am until 8pm on the Friday, 7 am until 8 pm on the Saturday and 7 am until 9-10pm on the Sunday. Some branches, including those in places like Lancashire, drive down for both days and take no accomodation. This just isn't an option for a committee member. From myh own perspective, I worked so hard on the Friday that I damaged by knee (chondromalacia) and couldn't drive my car until mid way through Saturday.

Nige. IPMS(UK) Webmaster

Th committee is fully aware of the problem, and there are three new members this year, and hence three more heads of ideas. Already we are looking at redefining the role of the society in the Internet age (it has made a BIG difference to what is essentially a niche hobby) and we should see some more activities better targetted at member support this year.

Nige. IPMS(UK) Webmaster

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