Very OT: Anyone here have a BB rifle?

Dec 29, 2005 14 Replies

Blew away my 1970's model collection with one...thought it might be fun to have one around again for basic target practice and to put down various hopeless models.



Crosman v. Daisy - comments?



CO2 v. pump action? (seems like CO2 would have less moving parts, but would cost more with the added expense of buying cartridges).



Guesstimate as to how many BB's can be fired per cartridge?


thx much - Craig



"You'll shoot your eye out, kid..."

The last one I bought was/is a Crosman pump.

The pump can really 'reach out and touch someone'. Mine still works great after 20+ years...

Hey, if you have to ask, you're not even in the ballpark! Hehehe...

Frank Kranick

Crossman - pump. Definately. Adds the ability to send multiple BBs down range with one trigger pull and the right amount of pumps...yeah.

That's how I remember it...

There are CO2 models that have plug in recharagable cylinders. All you then need to do is to invest in a feeder tank that looks like a divers bottle to refill it from. With the rechargable cylinders you can at least take them out to stop the slow leakage.

Richard.

It depends what you want to do.

Blast it to bits? CO2 or modern (e.g. 1000 fps) pump air rifles like RWS will work fine.

But if you want to take your time, the old, low-power low-tech Daisy "Red Ryder" (.e.g. Old Blue) still works great for popping bits off a model.

We had some "trials" out in Kansas with a friend of mine and most of his arsenal.

.22 Magnum -- leaves small round holes in both sides of a tank.

.357 Magnum -- leaves large round holes in both sides of a tank.

.45-70 -- leaves jagged holes, but blows the model back a good 15-20 feet.

12 Gauge with dove shot -- WHAT model???

Cookie Sewell

Look guys the only way to absolutely be sure is explosives.

I took a BB gun to a Herbie the Love Bug model in the 70s but only wounded it and it turned on me. I switched to large quantities of Black Cat firecrackers and never had it happen again.

I'd think all the pumping you'd be doing right now involves bailing water. ;)

Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.

Brought back long lost memories of summer days spent firing away at some dime store models hung by string from the TV antenna guy wires with my trusty old Daisy Red Ryder BB gun - then blowing up the remnants with ladyfinger firecrackers.

Thanks... (must have been the summer of '56)

Jack G.

Further OT - has anybody seen the motivational film about learning to shoot tossed aspirin tablets with a BB gun? Have you tried it?

i still have my daisy. good for those 3 am psycho dog barks. forgot about models and bb's.....hm....

To take this to its logical next step:

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JM

a rubber chicken, a blonde and a quart of cuervo?

LOL,

I've seen those before. They're made in Italy, because they're marked "Fragile" on the crate.

Happy New Year!

Her dad loved it and her mother was horrified and yes there is apparently some argument as to whether or not it goes in the front window...LOL

Happy New Year!

First off use pellets not BB's. BB's are made of steel and when they hit something solid, Like when you miss and hit the steel garbage can behind the model they ricochet....and yes they can put your eye out. Lead pellets are far less likely to ricochet.

Second wear safety glasses, Polycarbonate lenses, marked z87.

Third, co2 will work but it's max velocity with the Crosman powerlets is between 350 to 400 feet per second velocity. You will get about 50 shots per powerlet. (The last 20 will drop in velocity, accuracy will suffer and so will penetration) If you shoot fast the powerlet will ice up and velocity will drop.

Pump or spring piston are the way to go. The guns that take the large air bottles or can be pumped with a bicycle pump or compressor are way expensive. Definitely too expensive for destroying the occasional evil model.

Daisy makes toys don't bother. The Crosman pump rifles and pistols are ok Not great but Ok. If I was going to buy a Crosman I would go with the

1377c pump pistol. It will give you about 600 fps velocity. And you can get a plastic shoulder stock that replaces the grips to make it more stable and accurate.

Avoid the crosman co2 pistols like they have anthrax rubbed on them. They are over priced diecast zinc junk.

If you are interested in a quality co2 repeater pistol look for Gamo. They are priced in the $50 range. Their spring piston rifles are top notch too and they are reasonably priced. They have a few in the $80 range. RWS and Beeman are the Kings of high quality spring piston guns. They start around $150 and go up.

Avoid the chi-com spring piston guns. Many will shoot 30 or 40 shots and crap out and stop cocking. The accuracy is hit or miss also. I really wouldn't trust the safety on these guns either. The problem is they aren't "all" bad. Some are excellent some are poor, the problem is you can have that range of quality from the same manufacturer in the same model. They have no consistent quality control. You really have no idea what you will get. Chinese labor aside, If you can import and sell a spring piston air gun for $35, The price to manufacturer it is in the range of $6 how well can it be made? Remember, It's your health and safety we are talking about here!

If you really want to see massive devastation when you shoot your models get a cheap paintball gun and freeze the paintballs! The accuracy is poor because you have a smooth bore barrel but they will smash the hell out of your model! I saw a cheap paintball gun at sports authority for $25. It uses co2 powerlets and you have to c*ck it every shot.

Sears had an entire collection of scenes from Christmas Story done in resin. Pretty nice models.

When I saw it they had only the kid and the flagpole in damaged condtion. It looked like there had been a half dozen tems.

Check the Sears website, it may be there.

BTW, I still have my Crosman AIR-17. Takes .177 pellets or BBs.Looks like a M16 and it's pre-PC so no orange barrel tip, etc. One pump for the cats when they go after the doves. Stings and the pop adds to the effect. Four pumps would be lethal. Five round clip for the .177 pellets, storage for four clips in the removable large "clip". Shoulder rest has a hinged back that allows for more storage. Highly recommended if you can find one.

Tom

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