BSA Lookalike Gennies

I saw the corner of one sticking out of Martin's van pic. I have an original & complete WD one, plus an interesting hybrid, a genny but with carb & top tank. It is SO much lighter! A few months ago I picked up a 240V AC one - it starts & goes, but I'm uncertain about the output as yet. I didn't know they did a 110volt one as well.

As a matter of interest, the reason why there are so many of these licensed-built Johnston Iron Horse derivatives about in the UK is because the Post Office based their entire small generating capacity upon them for a while after the war. They used Tiny Tim's as well, but not in such numbers.

Regards,

Kim

It's got an American 2-pin receptacle, so I am 'assuming' 110V. A longer look may prove me wrong...

Peter

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complete WD one, plus an interesting hybrid, a genny

licensed-built Johnston Iron Horse derivatives about in the UK

them for a while after the war. They used Tiny Tim's

Hi Kim, As an apprentice PO Engineer in 1957 the generator we used was the Tiny Tim!

Quite a few variants:-

I see the 230 volt variant isn't listed. I am now of course riven with self-doubt & will report back!

Regards,

Kim.

The receptacle is a two-prong USA type, but male, which makes me wonder if it is for a battery connection?

Peter

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Kim, Peter, Do your gen sets have any ID - Johnson, OMC, BSA etc?

NHH

Haven't looked closely at the new pair, been too busy sorting new central heating out, but will take some pictures today and have a closer look.

Peter

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Initially we thought that these would be BSA generators like we already have (5 of them!) but after finding a label on the side, we can advise as follows:

"Pincor BD-12A" "Power Unit DC/AC 250Watts No1 (American) 1A" "Pincor Specification SS2856 1942"

These are indeed dual-voltage 240V AC and 12V battery starting/charging.

A previous thread on Smokstak here:

One of our two is complete, the other is missing some parts. The unusual feature of these is the additional external flywheel which is bolted to the existing cooling fan/flywheel.

I'll get some pictures up as soon as I can.

Peter Peter

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Pictures either here:

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Interesting, looks like Pioneer Gen-E-Motor/Pincor were another wartime builder of these Johnson originated sets. I have also seen 1950's ads in ME and the like for Tiny Tim type sets sold under the Pioneer 'Blue Diamond' brand - probably war surplus.

NHH

Started a quick tidy up this morning, before I had to go out.

The one with the missing head had crankcase and fuel tank base full of water, so I drained them out.

Flywheel unscrewed OK, there is movement in the engine, but WD40 takes a bit of time to get around.

Starting button is direct on the leads, not a relay as in the BSA units. There is also a load solenoid wich works on the throttle if I am interpreting it correctly, pulling down on the throttle when extra load is applied.

Peter Peter

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I wondered where all the water came from in my van, I tried to clean the inside the other day but the dirt etc was frozen to the wooden floor.

My Tarpen hade a load relay, if you increased the load on the genny the relay opened the carb more.