Online Manuals

and I'm on his blocked senders list :-) Roland

|Evening, |It would appear that a toerag on Ebay, username satworld, has been downloading the manuals from the Internal |Fire/Semidiesel site, sticking them on CD and selling them.

Paul, a check on satworlds feedback reveals that he has not sold too many, there are three feedbacks for the CDs. I note he has had to drop the price from £8.99 to £6.99 as well.

The three items on satworld's feedback and ebay buyers IDs are:

Registered ebay users can contact these buyers via ebay email.

You could inform these buyers what they have bought!

Hi, We have 11 CDs sold, the purchasers have been informed.

Also paper copies have been sold. He got £30 for a print of the LRM/SRM manual. I haven't dug any deeper, I get even more annoyed.

Cheers Paul

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As both a user and contributor to Paul's collection of manuals, I am saddened by this. It's the usual situation of a tiny minority spoiling things for the majority - this is becoming a sad world.

I contributed to this effort for the greater good and to support the Internal Fire effort specifically, and I hope this situation can be rectified to return to the original objectives of Paul and fellow contributors.

All strength to the efforts to stop this blatant abuse of a charitable effort.

In message , Paul Evans writes

downloading the manuals from the Internal

He steals other people's images too:

(and I never realised Petters used Waelschaerts valve gear !)

-- Smert' spamionam

Although I'm aware that there are people in this niche hobby who are driven entirely by the profit motive, in general, our small world is refreshingly open handed and the Internal Fire site is a great testament to the way the great majority feel about our iron charges.

The wide world has bread-heads in plenty, but I am saddened by the thought that there must - by implication - be one amongst us that feels no compunction about profiteering on the hard work of others. May he rot, slowly, and from the sticky fingers inwards.

Now let us look on the bright side of this. Paul has discovered that there is a market for CD's of his manuals and it would provide a steady - if minor - income for the Internal Fire museum. I would be delighted to buy one if it were available and I've no doubt that there are a lot of contributors and lurkers who would do likewise.

Watcha think, Paul?

Regards,

Kim Siddorn

"J K Siddorn" wrote

Hi Kim, Missed this one, sorry.

We did produce a batch of CDs in nice cases a while ago with ALL of the PDFs plus copies of the all the databases. We also knocked up a small GUI that would install the thing on your PC and then keep it updated from the website when changes were made.

The suggestion was made at the time that doing things like this made us "dealers" and "commercial" therefore "not nice" so we canned the idea deciding to wait until the operating company for the museum had achieved charitable status.

The CDs are on sale in the shop now along with very nice sweatshirts (ask Roland) and Ruston/Blackstone/Peter t-shirts etc. Video is also being produced and all this lot will be in the Online Shop on the website shortly.

Despite the adverse comments in the past we have to sell things and charge admission for the museum to grow. At the moment anyone that visits has as many engines as possible run for them and at the end of the day it all costs so we have to find ways to fund it. I should add that (following another recent email) we have had no funding from any public body and everything done so far has been entirely self-funded along with the occasional helper.

The exception to the above is Keith Farley who lives locally and offered help last January. Since then he has been here

Roland has also been up to help, but he took the Petter SS apart and left it scattered all over the workshop and went home again! (probably won't come again now) :-)

Next museum will be a collection of Hobby-Horses.

Paul

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So how are the fireplace and kennel coming along :-) "I shall return" Roland PS Oh its a workshop? PPS T shirts are excellent especially the one with a TX1 on it

it scattered all over the workshop and went

"Roland and Celia Craven"

Living in the kennel, concreting the hearth at the same time as the Bamford Mill base.

It was nearly tidy before someone left Pettercrap all over it.

Paul

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"Paul Evans" wrote (snip):-

I look forward to that. There seems to be a lack of SE related merchandising compared to all the stuff one can get with tractors, classic cars etc etc plastered all over it. Last year I bought the SE calendar, which has brightened up the office for nearly 12 months now, and was disappointed not to find it on sale again this year.

and the Pope is Jewish :-)

"Paul Evans" wrote

Sir, you have a customer:-)) Ordering details off list please.

"Nick Highfield" wrote

Well, just so happens.....

They will hopefully be ready before Christmas.

Nothing draped over the engines though, SWMBO wouldn't allow it :-(

Paul

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"Nick Highfield" said > Sir, you have a customer:-)) Ordering details off list please.

Correction, you have two customers - please tell me when it's available. If the ordering details were on list, you might sell a few more too - and do you have any of the CD's left?

Several salacious things spring to mind about ladies draped over engines, none of which I think I should mention in this gentlemanly company, but a boiler suit, a flat cap and an oil can might never look the same to me again ...........

Regards,

Kim Siddorn

I suggested off list, lest Paul be accused of using NG for commercial purposes.

Sorry, perhaps I was being unnecessarily cautious, but you know what some people are like;-)

I would not have thought a single posting from a charitable establishment would be frowned upon.

Indeed I do !

- Oops, never crossed my mind! But we often post things here for sale and everyone finds it useful I think?

Did I miss something?

Regards,

Kim Siddorn