resources.
Except 'south of the Themes' were they were not used at all, but the "Light Pacific's" could be seen on branch lines with two or three coaches - especially in the West Country, which means they are also of use to WR modellers...! :~P
":::Jerry::::" wrote
Are you sure? I think if you check you'll find that both the LMS and BR Standard 2MT (along with the tank loco versions) were indeed used on the Southern Region.
John.
An Ivatt 2-6-2t holds the record for the largest number of 16t mineral wagons hauled past our school in a single train. It was amusing watching it emerge from the woods at the end of the playing fields and thinking "Well that little thing couldn't possibly be hauling many wagons". How wrong we were all proved. Mind you I'm not claiming the wagons were loaded :o)
(kim)
We were talking about LMS 2-6-0 2MT tender loco's, Ivatt's to be precise, as you kindly reminded me earlier... In any case, a quick look at a reference work, shows that the BR Standard version were not allocated to the SR region either.
So in what order /region do you think the majority of people model? I would have thaught there were a large number os Sr / BRSR modellers, otherwise the stuff would not sell and hornby would stop producing it?
my guess would be
GWR/BRWR SR/BRSR LMS/BRMR LNER/BRNE
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mineral
watching it
Nor was it travelling very fast I suspect...
People are forgetting some BR regions...
GWR = BR WR Region SR = BR SR Region LMS = BR LMR + BR Scottish Region LNER = BR ER & NE + BR Scottish Region
All with geographical overlaps!
":::Jerry::::" wrote
If you read my post again you'll see I refered to both the LMS & BR Standard
2MT (in other words the 'Ivatts' tender locos) along with the tank engine versions, and where did I claim they were 'allocated' to the SR? I said they were 'used' on the Southern.John.
"Piemanlarger" wrote
Put the SR to the bottom of that list and that would agree with my guess.
John.
How about BR sector-era, where locations can be somewhat more ambiguous if most stock is freight.
I would imagine that might be the case in Yorkshire.... but based on nationwide sales, I would beg to differ with you John.
"John Ruddy" wrote
It's certainly not the case in my part of Yorkshire where
LNER/BRNE LMS/BRMR GWR/BRWR SR/BRSR
would be the case, but I was taking a less parochial view of things based on information gained from the major manufacturers over a number of years.
John.
I would suggest that from a South-West perspective the order would be :
There are quite a few crossover layouts of 1/2 and 1/3
Eddie.
Well build a layout based on Hither Green and up to 1945 you have 1,2,3 and
4 as the crossovers....
Yes, and if we had been having the same conversation ten or so years ago I suspect that the LNER would have be bottom for the simple reason that (with notable exceptions) the RTR stock wasn't available!
I've always though that the Blackfriars / Ludgate Hill area would make an interesting bases for a cross London layout.... Hmm :~)
I wouldn't be surprised if Bachmann announced a limited special edition of BR 9F 922203 "Black Prince" in preservation livery, possibly as part of a joint promotion with the David Shepherd elephant appeal. An Ivatt 2-6-0 2MT is probably well under way.
(kim)
Yet another totally incorrect statement from Jerry. At least he can be relied on to gove us a bit of amusement, even if much of his information isn't to be trusted!
Watch him shout & swear at me now 'cos I've dared to disagree . . . . All mouth & very little couth, I'm afraid.
TOS
loco's,
information
Cite shed codes and working rosters / WTT to back you assertions up please, I *suspect* you are thinking of the 3MT (or even 4MT) tanks that were used across the SR - or - you might even be thinking of the ex SR lines in the west country that became WR routes. All my references show them allocated only to 73F (Ashford) and 73G (Ramsgate) on the SR.
Oh right, this is getting confusing, the STANDARDS were confined to Kent, the ex LMS Ivatt's were used on the SR in the London, Eastleigh and in the West of England areas.
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