Early Tyne EMU livery question

Tyne & Wear Metro EMU 4027 is painted in a reproduction of this livery, which can be seen here:

HTH,

Thanks for that. This network seems to have been largely ignored by model makers, I have seen some stuff on the 1500vDC overhead side, and the Harton collier system, but I do not recal ever seeing an article on this lot

Regards

Mike

What you want is Part 10B of the Good Book.

"Livery was red below the waist line and cream above until the 1920 replacement stock appeared when the standard NER coaching stock colour of crimson lake was applied."

15 trailer thirds, 2 Luggage Motor Double cabs Composites, 5 Luggage Motor Single cab Composites, 5 Motor Single cab Thirds, 7 Motor Double cab Thirds and a Motor Parcels Van.

"Under the LNER, the crimson lake livery gave way to a drab teak colour."

Both the new and the refurbished stock got red and cream livery in

1938. From 1941, this changed to Marlborough blue and Quaker grey. Under BR, they were painted green from 1949.

Presumably the same green as the repainted NER/LNER units.

Tim

ISTR that one of the layouts exhibited at Warley was based on the Tyneside Electrification. Unfortunately my nephew kept the programme as a souvenir so I cannot look up the name. Seem to recall that some of the stock on this layout had a blue and cream livery which from some other source I have long forgotten was used in the LNER era on part of the system

G.Harman

One of the series on NE stock - In storage I do have the one on goods stock - excellent work (although if you look closely at the trestle wagon pic you can see that it had both sides still attached, possibly with a bit missing in the centre of the non-working side, not as described with no side left)

Thanks very much for taking the trouble to reply! I tried google, teoma and several other search engines but only found the same three sites, one of which has some rather small but handy pictures.

I may consider buying the book, I like lines with character.

Regards

Mike

Gentlemen are you happy with these entries in the credits?

Tim Illingowrth (no website) Tim, another regular on the uk.rec.models.rail newsgroup, was able to supply considerable detail on the Tyneside electric suburban services.

Rich Mackin Railway Scene - A website covering the current railway scene with photographs, news and discussion forums Rich, yet another regular on the uk.rec.models.rail newsgroup, was able to offer a lot of help on early EMU liveries.

Mike

In message , Tim Illingworth writes

Weren't these built at the same works that built the SR units? So wouldn't they have been painted in the same shade of green as the SR units?

Ok with me Mike. :)

There was an MLV as well.

Regards,

Stuart.

Good bet - fits with Tims info as well

Mike

The Good Book in question is the RCTS "Locomotives of the LNER", otherwise known as the Green Bible. :-)

Apparently anything self-propelled is a locomotive, or at least worth documenting.

Tim

Looks good to me. Most of my website is at

but there's no rail stuff there at the moment. One Of These Days I will get round to scanning my early 1970s BR photos and putting them up...

Tim

In message , Tim Illingworth writes

I thought anything to do with railways was worth documenting, as you never know who (even yourself) may want the information at some time in the future.

The book 'Tyneside Electrics' by Ken Hoole gives some clues about the liveries throughout the period of electrification. regards, Steve

No problem, I'll put in a link anyway.

Regards

Mike

Oops, though you were referring to North Eastern Record.

Regards

Mike

Thanks I will add that reference to the entry

Mike

Of which I own Part 5 (Tender Engines - Classes J1 To J37), which I bought with the hope of finding some good photos of Stockton shedded J21s between 1923 and 1931. Virtually all of the photos of the class in question in the book are of Darlington engines. >:-(

What I really need is the relevent Yeadon's, but I'm reliably informed it won't be out before March. This is a problem, because I need the locomotive finished before February 2006. My current backup plan is to build it as a saturated example and just leave the number off until I get the right information.

Annoyingly, if I'd stuck to my original plan of buying an NER Class Z kit, the Yeadon's is already out.

Stockton J21s at grouping: 30, 147, 148, 209, 312, 520, 979, 1073,

1511, 1547, 1573, 1574, 1589.

Superheated engines: 147, 209, 979, 1073, 1574 and 312 from 4/25

Allocations from LNER Allocations: The First Day and superheating from RCTS Part 5.

Tim