New Heljan at Warley?

"Derek Heath" wrote

The Class 58 would not be a surprise. I believe Heljan did some extensive research on these for one of the preservation groups.

The 'Clayton' will no doubt prove to be far more popular than the prototype, which was one of the least successful of the early BR classes, but has since developed some degree of cult status.

Add to those two an O-scale Class 37 Co-Co and I suspect you have their three promised new releases for 2007.

John.

Are you attempting to get some drooling mistakenly John, all to easy to read that as 'The Claughton...', after a Friday night tipple! :~)

Seriously though, a Class 17 is very region / era specific (Private owner excepted), I really do wonder why Heljan has chosen it, I would have thought that something like North British DE Type 2's would have been a better bet (keeping the Scottish interest) with the possibility of using some of the tooling to produce the Western region DH version.

"Jerry" wrote

Yup agreed, it's about as universally useful as the 'Hymek' model, but it does have cult status. I will have one for certain because they are really pretty diesel (if a diesel can be pretty) and they will also complement Heljan's soon to be released models of Classes 26 & 27.

I can see a potential boom in Scottish modelling in the years ahead.

John.

"John Turner" wrote

(if a diesel can be pretty)

John.

Yes, as it's not quite a box on wheels, pretty, as it was unusual !

Andy

"Andy Sollis CVMRD" wrote in news:ekrm82$e8k$ snipped-for-privacy@aioe.org:

I have to agree, I feel the same about most of the first generation diesels, there's a lot to catch the eye, not just the shapes but the way the power was transmitted, wheel layouts. All in all quite an exciting period full of optimism, socialism hadn't yet managed to destroy British manufacturing, a new start after the war companies still competing working to develop the best that they could with individuals still able to play roles in their own part rather than simply as members of faceless committees.

As I?ve said in another thread just about the only thing that would persuade me away from kettles would be a greater availability in a wider range of early/transition period stock. With all due respect to the fans of the modern era when I see what?s being run today all I see is a series of oblong boxes that sometime have different paint jobs.

In message , John Turner writes

If only the boom could be reflected in either Scottish Pre Grouping types or those designed for Scottish use by the LNER/LMS. That are is where it's REALLY needed. I won't hold my breath though.

But then a steam engine is just a tube on wheels, certainly if it has inside cylinders...

(Private

But then the Hymek's could be seen from Crew to Portsmouth and anywhere west, the Class 17's spent most their lives north of the Scottish border, although they were used in the NE IIRC at one time.

"Jerry" wrote

There are pictures of them on my

website of several of them on Tyne Yard, and I've seen them at Carlisle too (no photos tho). Somewhere I've got a shot of one working a freight near Monk Fryston in Yorkshire, but I can't find the bl##dy thing!

I also remember them being delivered new to Scotland in the consist of freight trains passing along the Midland Railway mainline in Yorkshire in the early(ish) 60s.

John.

Models tend to sell if their prototypes are/were widespread, but manufacturers have also discovered that limited prototypes can also be good sellers if they have appeal. Take for example Tri-ang's 'Lord of Isles' and Hornby's GWR 0-4-0t (a single prototype but Hornby's best seller)

Regards, Greg.P.

The RTC at Derby had one in the early 70s and it was a regular visitor to the Old Dalby test track. See:

ROB

From the posters on the Heljan stand at Warley you can add Falcoln to the above two as well!!

Nigel

They were also used in my area (Manchester) as I have some pictures of them at Longsight depot, so I'll definitely be buying one. And a few Thomas the Tank engine fans might buy some as well!

Fred X

As in the prototype/one-off Class 53 Falcon? What a bizarre choice! All I want is an RTR Class 15 BTH :(

I'll have two... {:~0

They've got to recycle their Class 47 bodyshells somehow, havn't they?

What, and have people complain that the Falcon models are 2mm too wide also?

I saw it between Derby and Stoke in 1972- at the time, I believe the RTC had two sites, one of which was the rump of the old GNR line to Stafford, so it may have been heading there. Brian

Also allocated to the Barrow-In-Furness area, including trips on the Windermere branch