:
: >
: > Care to cite the books you were referring to, if you can cite
: > (checkable) book(s) I will withdraw my accusations of lying,
: >
:
: They were books I read 40-50 years ago
If you can't remember the book(s) title(s) then how are we to
accept that you have remembered any of the actual facts?
If you could, I'm sure you would, like any normal person, instead of
continuing your silly games.
Go on then, Jerry, I'm calling your bluff, shows us what you know.
MBQ
"Jerry" wrote
I'd say because the information. he was recalling was more important to him
than the book title. I would hate to have to cite the titles of all the
books that I've used to accumulate something like 50 years of information on
railways & railway models.
John.
On Dec 28, 8:20 pm, "Jerry"
wrote:
:> Ask me to cite the book
:
: Go on then, Jerry, I'm calling your bluff,
Title:
Thompson & Peppercorn Locomotive Engineers
[Note. not withstanding the books title it covers relevant
pre-grouping information, the activities/designs of Gresely and
the, post Peppercorn, BR period]
Author:
Colonel H.C.B.Rogers
Publisher:
Ian Allan - 1979
ISBN:
0 7110 0910 4
: > If you can't remember the book(s) title(s) then how are we to
: > accept that you have remembered any of the actual facts?
:
: I'd say because the information. he was recalling was more
important to him
: than the book title. I would hate to have to cite the titles
of all the
: books that I've used to accumulate something like 50 years of
information on
: railways & railway models.
:
Then you will face the same problem should you ever start arguing
the toss against the logic of an argument...
For goodness sake Greg, dont worry about it. Never known you to deliberately
misquote or give erroneous info just for the sake of it. as is well known,
those who have never made mistakes never did anything.
I never debate just to show am right (that is a bonus), but to learn or
confirm.
Cheers,
Simon
John's opinion vs Jerry's opinion ... a tough choice ... or perhaps not ;-)
Jerry, old buddy, when you've read three books on any given point, you'll
recognise that there are at least two different opinions, sometimes rather
more. If there is only one then most likely all the authors are quoting
just one source. Fifty years on, any new historical opinions are likely
to have come from the author's imagination or logic.
The author closest to the source is the best bet.
Regards,
Greg.P.
Probably, but possibly not.
I can say that the concept of the corridor connections being
offset because of the internal arrangement of sorting pigeon
holes etc was completely new to me whereas the offset being
there to stop through communication with the Railways stock
has been in my head for a long time.
I have an excellent memory for assorted information, very
little for titles and authors.
Greg.P.
: The author closest to the source is the best bet.
:
Except when they are wrong...
TPOs with their off-set gangways was due to internal mail sorting
equipment layout, any fool can see that just by examining the
internal layout of such coaches, some things simply do not change
against physical facts how ever you or a miss-guided author
wishes, the size of letters (aka the size needed for sorting
racks, the average space taken up by a standing or sitting postal
worker, the size of a postal sack etc.
Also, you have never explained why a simple key-lock was deemed
totally adequate for external door security but not for the
corridor connection doors and thus requiring them to be off-set -
with all the complications that introduces, even within just the
specialised world of TPO stock!
:
: >
: > : : > :
: >
: > : >
: > : > Care to cite the books you were referring to, if you can
cite
: > : > (checkable) book(s) I will withdraw my accusations of
lying,
: > : >
: > :
: > : They were books I read 40-50 years ago
: >
: > If you can't remember the book(s) title(s) then how are we to
: > accept that you have remembered any of the actual facts?
: >
:
: I suppose you remember the authors, titles and contents of
: both the books you've ever read?
No, but then I would not 'quote' as "fact" anything I recall
reading in them.
Average letter length - about 8".
Sorting clerk's arm - about 2'9"
Space to move - say 12"
That's a total of around 4'5".
Sorting coach width - 8' to 9'
Seems to me they could have put the corridor connection in the middle with
very little loss of working space.
The Postal vehicle were for Postal staff only - there is no reason for
railway staff to enter or for Postal staff to leave.
In fact, non-postal employees were not allowed access.
Why would they provide access?
Why was a simple keylock insufficient? This is perhaps revealing my
mis-spent youth, but people of a certain persuasion
are barely slowed down by a locked door. Locks are to keep honest people
out.
Regards,
Greg.P.
I certainly remember the bit about denying access to non-Postal people
_and_ the lack of comment about the off-set being due to internal layout.
That last bit is perhaps the most important.
Regards,
Greg.P.
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