After the war, the military sold 'em. And Hollywood destroyed 'em by
the dozens in movies. By no means all, but a lot were destroyed that way.
I'm sure the military destroyed their share that they couldn't otherwise
They chop them into big hunks & sell them for scrap. LAtely, I've
seen C141's chipped into ~10 pieces, stripped of their engines &
electronics on auctions. I think it was on Discovery Channel that I
saw this being done to B52's.
On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 08:56:31 -0500, Kevin Trojanowski
Yes. Two reasons. Foreign governments destroyed
some because of Lend-Lease. Under that program,
you paid for them when you turned them back in,
but you didn't have to pay if they had been destroyed.
Go figure the logic in that one. I've seen video
of navy fighters getting pushed off the decks of
Lend-Lease Royal Navy escort carriers.
The second reason had to do with protecting the
aircraft industry. Very early on, probably before
Pearl Harbor, the government had already agreed
that after the war, surplus birds would be
destroyed to protect the post-war industry. While
that seems back-room and underhanded, not to mention
wasteful, it was actually necessary and useful.
Oh, the nastiness of capitalism :)
On 9 Jul 2004 19:42:21 GMT, firstname.lastname@example.org (Chris Lewis)
The most recent count that I've seen lists 44 complete B-17
20 Static displays
5 Undergoing restoration
7 In storage
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I don't think the Memphis Belle has been restored to flight status. The
last time I saw her, she was in extremely poor condition. As far as I
know, she is still being restored at the Millington Naval base near
Memphis and is still in need of parts. Anyone that can help, please
It is up in Millington.
Memphis may be one of the top 50 most populated cities in the country, but
it is still run like the smallest. The Bureau might get around to changing
their info if/when it gets restored and given a more "permanent" place to be
The Memphis Belle which was seen at LDRS23 (and it was awesome doing
low passes of the field) was the one used in the movie. The 'real'
Memphis Belle is down south.
I have to say that the vintage warbirds buzzing the field every now
and then certainly added to the LDRS experience this year. I, for one,
really enjoyed the 'private' airshow.
This weekend there will be thousands paying for the privilege of
seeing these magnificent warplanes fly.
Next weekend, the Rochester Airshow. And BTW, some of the gang from
BRS that ran LDRS23 are involved in the Rochester Airshow as well. We
are going to be taking the Toronto - Rochester ferry across for the
day to take in the airshow and to help out if we can.
You ain't from around here, are you? ;)
No Belle at Mud Island...she was moved a while back. There is a "Belle"
copy flying at airshows.
Mud Island's website shows no Belle:
Again from http://www.memphisbelle.com
When will the belle be finished'... said three years. When will that be?
Our restoration team is working diligently but expects their work to
continue through 2005. They continue to uncover additional repairs which
need to be made, so check back with our Web site for photo updates in
the restoration section. Materials have become a pressing need for our
restoration team ... donations of materials and cash to purchase
materials is always appreciated by our volunteer restoration team.
I read the Memphis Belle is coming to our local air show. And, I saw the
Memphis Belle at an air show a couple of years ago. How can you be
restoring the aircraft when it is traveling around the country to air
shows? What is the story?
We get this question a lot.
The REAL Memphis Belle has been in Memphis, TN, since July of 1946 when
she was saved from the surplus scrap operation in Altus, OK, by the City
of Memphis. She is designated a national historic treasure and will
never fly again.
More than one B-17 has been dressed up to look like the Memphis Belle
over the years. Currently one, which played the Memphis Belle in the
1990 theatrical movie, visits air shows throughout the USA and Canada.
The air show advertising makes it sound like tne Memphis Belle is
visiting, but check the fine print.
Proceeds from those shows do not support our restoration efforts or the
Memphis Belle in any way. We encourage everyone to join our association
and/or make a contribution to our restoration work. Cneck out the Get
Involved section of this Web site for more information.
Excellent. I envy you! That would be so cool to fly in one. I do have
the B17 plane for MS Flight Sim 2004 which I bought from a company in
England. The B17 they model is very realistic right now to the engine
sounds. Which is one reason why I video taped it, I wanted to compare
the real sounds vs the engines in FS. Flying the B17 in FS (and MS
Combat FS) is alot of fun. The plane in FS lands at such a slow speed,
I wonder what the stall speed is for the real one?
Thanks for the site. I have book marked it.
Flyer fees this year were slightly less than for LDRS last year in
Argonia. Yes, there was a vendor fee, but if the only reason someone
didn't go to LDRS was due to the launch fees, then they won't be going to
any LDRS as they all seem to charge a pretty high fee.
Rocketeers on the east coast complain when LDRS is in the south, midwest,
or west, but then don't show up when it does come to the east coast.
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