Disappointed with LDRS this year

RayDunakin wrote:


Kind of like World War II veterans. Now that most of them are gone, we finally see the light.
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RayDunakin wrote:

After the war, the military sold 'em. And Hollywood destroyed 'em by the dozens in movies. By no means all, but a lot were destroyed that way.
I'm sure the military destroyed their share that they couldn't otherwise dispose of.
-Kevin
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They chop them into big hunks & sell them for scrap. LAtely, I've seen C141's chipped into ~10 pieces, stripped of their engines & electronics on auctions. I think it was on Discovery Channel that I saw this being done to B52's.
On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 08:56:31 -0500, Kevin Trojanowski

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Kevin Trojanowski wrote:

Yes. Two reasons. Foreign governments destroyed some because of Lend-Lease. Under that program, you paid for them when you turned them back in, but you didn't have to pay if they had been destroyed. Go figure the logic in that one. I've seen video of navy fighters getting pushed off the decks of Lend-Lease Royal Navy escort carriers.
The second reason had to do with protecting the aircraft industry. Very early on, probably before Pearl Harbor, the government had already agreed that after the war, surplus birds would be destroyed to protect the post-war industry. While that seems back-room and underhanded, not to mention wasteful, it was actually necessary and useful.
Oh, the nastiness of capitalism :)
Doug
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On 9 Jul 2004 19:42:21 GMT, snipped-for-privacy@nortelnetworks.com (Chris Lewis) wrote:

The most recent count that I've seen lists 44 complete B-17 airframes...
12 Operational 20 Static displays 5 Undergoing restoration 7 In storage
from http://www.aerovintage.com/final.htm
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On 9 Jul 2004 19:42:21 GMT, snipped-for-privacy@nortelnetworks.com (Chris Lewis) wrote:

There's a Lancaster and two Hurricanes flying with the Battle of Britain memorial flight.
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I can name 3: Memphis Belle, Yankee Lady, Fuddy Duddy.
Doug
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Rocketweb wrote:

I don't think the Memphis Belle has been restored to flight status. The last time I saw her, she was in extremely poor condition. As far as I know, she is still being restored at the Millington Naval base near Memphis and is still in need of parts. Anyone that can help, please contact them.
http://www.memphisbelle.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid &mode=thread&order=0&thold=0
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According to the City of Memphis tourism Bureau, today, right this moment, THE, original, Memphis Belle IS on display at Mud Island, Memphis Tennessee and has been since 1998.
Randy
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Tennessee
Nope.
It is up in Millington.
Memphis may be one of the top 50 most populated cities in the country, but it is still run like the smallest. The Bureau might get around to changing their info if/when it gets restored and given a more "permanent" place to be displayed.
Burt
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Ok, then there is a another B-17 labeled Memphis Belle at Mud Island. They really shouldn't be passing it off as the real deal.
Randy
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The Memphis Belle which was seen at LDRS23 (and it was awesome doing low passes of the field) was the one used in the movie. The 'real' Memphis Belle is down south.
I have to say that the vintage warbirds buzzing the field every now and then certainly added to the LDRS experience this year. I, for one, really enjoyed the 'private' airshow.
This weekend there will be thousands paying for the privilege of seeing these magnificent warplanes fly.
Next weekend, the Rochester Airshow. And BTW, some of the gang from BRS that ran LDRS23 are involved in the Rochester Airshow as well. We are going to be taking the Toronto - Rochester ferry across for the day to take in the airshow and to help out if we can.
73 Murray

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Randy wrote:

Nope. Old information.
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Randy wrote:

You ain't from around here, are you? ;)
No Belle at Mud Island...she was moved a while back. There is a "Belle" copy flying at airshows.
Mud Island's website shows no Belle: http://www.mudisland.com /
Again from http://www.memphisbelle.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------
Question:
When will the belle be finished'... said three years. When will that be?
Answer:
Our restoration team is working diligently but expects their work to continue through 2005. They continue to uncover additional repairs which need to be made, so check back with our Web site for photo updates in the restoration section. Materials have become a pressing need for our restoration team ... donations of materials and cash to purchase materials is always appreciated by our volunteer restoration team.
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Question:
I read the Memphis Belle is coming to our local air show. And, I saw the Memphis Belle at an air show a couple of years ago. How can you be restoring the aircraft when it is traveling around the country to air shows? What is the story?
Answer:
We get this question a lot.
The REAL Memphis Belle has been in Memphis, TN, since July of 1946 when she was saved from the surplus scrap operation in Altus, OK, by the City of Memphis. She is designated a national historic treasure and will never fly again.
More than one B-17 has been dressed up to look like the Memphis Belle over the years. Currently one, which played the Memphis Belle in the 1990 theatrical movie, visits air shows throughout the USA and Canada. The air show advertising makes it sound like tne Memphis Belle is visiting, but check the fine print.
Proceeds from those shows do not support our restoration efforts or the Memphis Belle in any way. We encourage everyone to join our association and/or make a contribution to our restoration work. Cneck out the Get Involved section of this Web site for more information.
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Randy wrote:

I went to Mud Island yesterday. No B-17 there. As was noted earlier, it is at Millington being restored.
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Randy wrote:

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http://www.memphisbelle.com
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Excellent. I envy you! That would be so cool to fly in one. I do have the B17 plane for MS Flight Sim 2004 which I bought from a company in England. The B17 they model is very realistic right now to the engine sounds. Which is one reason why I video taped it, I wanted to compare the real sounds vs the engines in FS. Flying the B17 in FS (and MS Combat FS) is alot of fun. The plane in FS lands at such a slow speed, I wonder what the stall speed is for the real one?
Thanks for the site. I have book marked it.
Joe C.
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It seemed to have been when NARAM was held there in 2001...
-David Tietz

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HAAAAAAAAA! That's pretty funny. Don't assume.

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snipped-for-privacy@aol.com (RayDunakin) writes:

Flyer fees this year were slightly less than for LDRS last year in Argonia. Yes, there was a vendor fee, but if the only reason someone didn't go to LDRS was due to the launch fees, then they won't be going to any LDRS as they all seem to charge a pretty high fee.
Rocketeers on the east coast complain when LDRS is in the south, midwest, or west, but then don't show up when it does come to the east coast.
Brian Elfert
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