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Wellington Questions

Pulled out the old Matchbox kit (I have it and can't afford the new one, OK) and had a few questions.

1) The kit has some piping of some kind that attaches to the wing outboard of the engines. It's not exhaust as it's to far from the nacelle. What is it?

2) Visible through window geodetic stringers. I assume that the glass is on hte outside and the framing need to be painted from the inside? Presumably same color as fuselage nearby?

3) Night vs Special Night. The kit decals are for 1943. My references suggest Night as opposed to Special Night for undersuface color. Night is described as a mixture of carbon black pigments and ultramarice blue pigments. What is not stated is the ratio. Any thoughts? How much "blue" should you be able to see? I looked at Squadron, Great Models and Testors and found nothing that's premixed. I happen to be using Liquitex Matt Basics for weathering and some painting and they have a carbon black and ultramarine blue. Can anyone suggest a mix (Floquil, Polly Scale, Model Master, Humbrol).

TIA, Frank

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Gray Ghost
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it is the exhaust, part of the sytem.

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snipped-for-privacy@some.domain ( snipped-for-privacy@some.domain) wrote in news:e0Eom.677030$ snipped-for-privacy@en-nntp-07.dc.easynews.com:

Someone esle said fuel dump which was my inital thought. On what do you base this idea? Specific book reference, if so which book, I would like to know a bit more about these birds.

And it's a least a half inch from the nacelle and starts about the halfpoint between the leading and trailing edges. That would be a good 3 feet back and to the side of the nacelle, making it about 4.5 away from the engine and exhaust.

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Gray Ghost

i'll have to look. another 2 engine bomber used it, too.

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I can recommend the 4+ book, covers all marks and has a lot of detail, outside and inside pictures and diagrams.

Very definitely fuel dump pipes. They are hinged at the flap line and the end tilts down with the flap.

The outer surface of the frame elements were painted in the camouflage colour (black), the other three surfaces left unpainted. On the Mk.X, the triangular window sections (perspex) were retained by an external frame, which should show as raised strips around the edge of the window and across it. Photos show the silver edges showing through when viewed diagonally. The inside of the fabric is red-brown, and the interior framework is unpainted aluminium (apart from the cockpit which is painted black)

Urban Fredriksson, amongst others, has it as FS37038. This is practically black (Ultramarine is pretty dark to start with). Paul Lucas describes it as very dark grey. I think you might notice a hint of blue if compared with a true black, but the main effect is to reduce the blackness just a little. The Ultramarine was apparantly added to harden the paint, not for shading, the intention was for a true black.

In 1943 the dope would be Smooth Night rather than the original Night or the very matt Special Night. Satin varnish is called for, I think.

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Alan Dicey wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@brightview.co.uk:

Excellent! Thanks.

So the visible framework inside the window should be? Aluminum?

Well i have some artist colors and I was just going to play with it. I have a true carbon black and ultramarine blue. I also grabbed a neutral grey, I suspect that I'll need the NG to tone it down just enough, especially ofr scale effect.

My sorce says it went NIVO - NIGHT - SPECIAL NIGHT - NIGHT and that NIGHT was not dead matte. The SPECIAL NIGHT was to sooty and rough costing MPH, fuel, range and extra strain on the engines. The NIGHT I have described in my reference is supposed to have a satin finish as you describe, hard and smooth.

Think I'm gonna mix carbon black - ultra blue - neutral grey 10 to 1 to 1 and see how it looks and then play from there.

Frank

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Gray Ghost

According to the very old Airfix kit those are fuel dumps.

Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.

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