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I expect some of it is shifted elsewhere :) but I am talking about what it cost ME and not how much profit a manufacturer can make out of me :9 beowulf
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Brian Paul Ehni
It DOES cost you. In the form of higher taxes, if nothing else. For example, the cost to purchase crude oil and refine it into gasoline is the same in Germany. Why does gasoline in Germany cost roughly twice as much as in the US?
TAXES! Taxes to pay for the cheap trains, taxes to pay for socialized medicine, taxes to pay for.... Well, you get the idea.
Whether you see it on your hospital bill (or prescription bill), it costs the same to you in the end.
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Dunter Powries
No, you also drew and promulgated some pretty dopey conclusions.
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Dunter Powries
Oh, sir, for shame, NOT spoken like a good socialist!
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wannand
Sorry Mr. P. you won't find zipperheads in Canada in the winter, we all wear togues, eh!
Except Vancouver, they wear rain slickers there.
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Dunter Powries
Apparently too tightly, Will. You'll be wanting to loosen it every twenty minutes or so to let the blood circulate.
Incidentally, here in New Hampshire, a 'togue' is a sort of trout. Very good for eating but of limited utility for keeping your head warm. I seem to recollect that when I was in the far east 'togue' was yet another ghastly concoction of bean sprouts - again, possibly nutritious but unsatisfactory as headgear.
I was at school in Montreal for several years and have no recollection of having seen foodstuffs worn as headwear.
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MrRathburne
And Canadians don't think the same thing? Any man worth a dam thinks this!
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not.fishplate
Glad to see you'r e still with us...
A couple of years ago, I attempted to lop off a couple of fingers in a table saw. After I got all put back together and rehabilitated, I went over the bills. The total cost of medical care was over $30,000, of which I paid about $200 out of my pocket. The rest was covered by insurance.
I would surmise your medical costs are comparable, it's just that the money is drawn out ahead in taxes, rather than the insurance payments. In my case, I got back ~every penny~ that I have paid out in insurance costs in one incident, and then some. What is the percent of your income you are allowed to keep?
The medical insurance racket really got started during WW2, as I understand it. Wages were frozen, so employers looked for another way to offer potential employes more than the next firm, so they began to pay some portion of the medical insurance premium. This practise ballooned, until people today think medical coverage is a right, and not a privelege of studying hard, working hard and making a good living.
The last thing I want is my Government (and they are my employer!) telling me where and when I may receive medical care. I can always get a new insurance company, it's rather harder these days for me to get a new Government.
Jeff Sc. Way Off Topic, Ga.
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Brian Paul Ehni
That would be "touQes", not "touGes", eh?
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Brian Paul Ehni
ROTFLMFAO!!
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Brian Paul Ehni
Close, but slightly wrong. Henry Kaiser (he of the "Henry J" car and Liberty ship fame) founded a health insurance program for his shipyard employees. This organization still exists as "Kaiser Permanente".
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MrRathburne
Cam you spell TAXES?
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MrRathburne
Oh good grief. You come here TO FLAME AMERICANS AND THE USA!!!!!!!!!!!
Then you act all hurt when someone comes back at you and tells you to shove it up your ass.
If you don't want to get bashed, STOP BASHING AND STICK TO TRAINS!!!!!!!!
But when you ask for it, you are going to get it so take it like a MAN.
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MrRathburne
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Dunter Powries
B-R-E-A-D A-N-D C-I-R-C-U-S ?
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Gregory Procter
It's no great secret - you just fail to look in the right places.
Well, one major change that is happening here at present is that the USa and Britain are actively poaching our trained doctors and health professionals - yes, you get your doctors trained free!
You're actually becoming insulting with that ignorant crap, Ratty.
never heard anything but praise for the
waiting lists for what is termed "elective
about being a good
depicted as meddling
this moment in
take or refrain
for any western
with racism of
the innate sense
thwm when faced
therefore will always
of food to
feed themsselves
railyways in their
on my TV when
both sides of
we have need for
health care, a comprehensive social
you can from Asia and Europe etc.
USa, with the exception that we are a
non-existant. We do of course have the option of
described as "reasonable" or "excessive"
stop anyone from joining a private health
alternatives.
obviously gain share or vice versa then the
about right here.
nation's experiences and data and we aren't
world so we learn and improve. (with the
attacks and cancer at the same time to
Sweden. All we need is some volunteers!
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Jerry
OH, stop your pro Dubya USA BS.
Jerry
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Steve Caple
No millionaire left behind.
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MrRathburne
You are just a stoned out wacko if you believe it is free. Welcome to the USSR.
Britain are actively poaching our trained
I've never heard anything but praise for the
waiting lists for what is termed "elective
about being a good
depicted as meddling
this moment in
take or refrain
for any western
rife with racism of
the innate sense
for thwm when faced
western nation but
therefore will always
amounts of food to
feed themsselves
railyways in their
dying on my TV when
(on both sides of
than we have need for
health care, a comprehensive social
that you can from Asia and Europe etc.
USa, with the exception that we are a
non-existant. We do of course have the option of
described as "reasonable" or "excessive"
course stop anyone from joining a private health
alternatives.
obviously gain share or vice versa then the
about right here.
nation's experiences and data and we aren't
world so we learn and improve. (with the
attacks and cancer at the same time to
Sweden. All we need is some volunteers!
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Beowulf
Salvé
and Britain are actively poaching our trained
The USA is now getting Doctors from India :) and the NZ docs usually return home after some years with valuable experience in fields difficult to train in in NZ :) fair does!! Beowulf
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