Re: Toronto Convention - Update from the organisers.

>Islam is a Hydra- each time you cut off one of it's heads it grows back

> two. While this is very true it's similar to plant growth. It is my > understand that radiation will get rid of the plant roots and thereby the > plant. > >

And the radiation will affect the rest of the plants in the garden too.

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Frank A. Rosenbaum
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Reply to
Jon Miller

Well, that may be true, but since I am a resident of the garden, I do not want the radiation affecting me or my friends.

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Frank A. Rosenbaum

Why would they attack us? They were retaliating against you but they have no reason to attack us.

Dream on.

It's relative - the US is a much bigger nation than New Zealand.

You noticed when we were subject to a terrorist attack? Gee, I seem to have overlooked the support and sympathy you sent!

Reply to
Gregory Procter

You don't have to "support" it to the level where it can dictate ME policies and attack and occupy it's neighbours as it likes - enough support to enable Israel to defend itself would do the job.

You're raping the ME for it's oil - it's a continuation of the situation that's been going on for the last couple of centurys - Britain, Russia and the USa.

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Gregory Procter

Yes of course, we should let Islam run the US. Ahh, this would solve your problem kiwi. Let them have all our military power and then let us see how long your kiwi butt remains free. HA

Reply to
EppersonJohnR

Now _you_are trolling!

I was trying to get this point across:- all the conflict and all the political interference takes place in the Middle East. It is _YOU_ interfering in the Middle East and in the Moslem world, not Moslems interfering in US politics.

That's not such a difficult concept to take into your little brains.

I don't know what they (who-ever "they" happens to be) would do if they had the power and the US did not - it's hardly relevant as _they_ do not even have the power to kick you out of _their_ homes and _their_ nations.

As for my Kiwi freedoms, in my lifetime, we have come running to your cries for help time after time, in Korea, Vietnam, the Gulf etc etc. We haven't even once in that time been threatened by any nation other than the USA. WWI and WWII? As I read the history books, we (my ancestors) went trundling off to the other side of the World to fight for the freedoms and rights of the Western world (our own not actually being threatened) while the US sat back and profited from armament sales to both sides. Even when you provoked Japan into the war, we were never actually under any threat. Now we spend our defence budget on such things as patrolling millions of square miles of ocean to keep watch for nuclear submarines which might threaten the USA and more on peace-keeping in numerous hot-spots around the globe (13 at present count) and our navy trots off to fill the gaps in the US defense when yours go off to belligerently invade sovereign nations elsewhere on the globe.

Regards, Greg.P.

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Gregory Procter

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Jon Miller

You're blaming 1 billion Moslems for the actions of 18(?) Saudi Arabians? In that case, why not take your brand of logic to it's extreme and nuke New York?

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Gregory Procter

Do you want the USa included? We might have to lower the bar a bit.

I wasn't a part of the competition - you lot whined about Pearl Harbour and the WTC.

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Gregory Procter

I wasn't a part of the competition - you lot whined about Pearl Harbour and the WTC<

You make reference to 8 thousand years of history and seem to have little grasp on even the last fifty!

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Jon Miller

OK, so when has the US come to save New Zealand from invaders in the last fifty years? (Huh, what did I miss :-O)

You're saying that you're not whining about the WTC? Lashing out and invading two nations that had nothing to do with that terrorist attack doesn't count?

Now you lot are whining about poor little GIs getting shot for doing no more than occupying Iraq and slaughtering the locals.

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Gregory Procter

Well then they wouldn't buy from us. The Russians, British, French, Israelis, South Africans and Chinese all make weapons and would be happy to get the cash and put their workers to work.

The Russians in particular make stuff as good as our and cheaper to booy. They need the money and will deal.

Eric

John Eppers "We can sell our obsolete stuff to others,just always be sure we are light years ahead of them in technology and weapons. I didn't say stand still, I said come home and remain strong, very strong. As for those out of work, put them in jobs guarding our borders and keeping the terrorist out along with all the imigrants."

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Eric

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"So, why wasn't proof of destruction offered, if as you say the weapons were destroyed? Why ~did~ he sacrifice his regieme? It didn't have to come to war (and would not have), if the weapons were truly destroyed."

So as not to appear weak to the ethnic majorities like the Kurds and the Shiit marsh arabs in South Iraq and the Iranians as well.

"If Resolution 1441 called for destruction of weapons, and that destruction was carried out, why allow your country to be ravaged by failing to offer proof?"

Because they determined that it was better to keep, their opponents guessing as to whether thay still had a chemical/biological retaliatory capacity then to let them know they didn't.

They never cared what the US or the UN thought. They know they can't win against them. They do care what the Kurd, Shiite and Iranians think.

Eric

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Eric

Any regime that has or had WMD are to be watched and if necessary eliminated."

The USA currently has them. All three. Maybe you'd like to rethink?

Oh I forgot, over there you get the good life if you are the correct religion or party member."

Just like here in the USA.

Eric

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Eric

Oh boy another liberal

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EppersonJohnR

=>>Oh I forgot, over there you get the good life if you are the correct religion =>>or =>>party member." =>>

=>>Just like here in the USA. =>

=>Oh boy another liberal

Oh boy, another right wing idiot.

See, we can dish out the insults, too. makes for reall, really reasonable discussion, eh? Lots of isnight, lost of minds ands hearts won, a perfect deomcratic paradise in fact.

Epperson, thanks for the entertainment, but it's getting rarher repetitive. Get a new shtick, eh?

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Wolf Kirchmeir

You're the route cause of the problem - still, I guess asking you to use logic is a bit much.

Yeah, he needs another war to get through the next Presidential non-election.

Stay home.

Reply to
Gregory Procter

The US, the French, the British. In more recent years; Asians, yanks, Poms, Germans ...

Reply to
Gregory Procter

Gee, it seems to me that there is a strong possiblilty that if we hadn't entered WW2 that you probably would have lost it ole boy. Outside of England, nobody was doing much to stoop the goosestep advance.

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EppersonJohnR

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