No it's here to stay (Unless something changes), it's purely down to cost.
I for one would sooner pay an extra couple of pence and get it on reasonable
paper, than have something that will fall apart after a few months.
The paper does seem to have the look & feel of chip paper, but to be
honest it still seems to reproduce photos quite well, so I can live
with it. As for the content, well, maybe it's just me, but this month
both BRM & MR seem to have been cobbled together with odds & ends
laying around the editorial office . Most unimpressed. :-(
firstname.lastname@example.org said the following on 08/12/2005 08:38:
Hmmmm..... I don't get BRM because it always feels that way, but I too
thought MR was a bit un-inspiring this month. I tend to look at it
overall as you can't always get something of interest every month, but
there seem to be too many consecutive months like that with MR at the
moment. What happened to Chris Leigh's Aster "Lion" series? Did he
ever get it finished?
I also get the much-maligned RM, and I still think it is the best
"mass-market" model railway magazine around, and I have been buying it
for 24 years, from school days. MRJ is the best model rail magazine of
the lot though!
I stopped subscribing to RM about 3 years ago, I was fed up with the
narrow gauge predominance; however I've now bought 3 of the last 4
issues & found them more interesting than BRM for sure, as you say I
don't expect every issue to be brimming with useful, relevant articles.
I've probably bought about 20% of the MRJs issued over the years,
without doubt it features the best quality modelling, I just find it
rather 'dry' to read. OTOH Model Rail's layout is so 'busy' it gives me
Yes, when RM get away from self-indulging in narrow gauge they can produce a
good magazine. I can't understand why they have this narrow-gauge fetish -
it's always been a minority interest, whether prototype or model.
John Turner said the following on 08/12/2005 12:09:
Fortunately for me, narrow gauge is an interest of mine, and I do like a
lot of the narrow gauge layouts and industrial layouts they feature, of
any scale except the identikit OO9 layouts that often show up.
Personally, I work in what has been called S4n2 - see my website!
The other thing to remember is that a lot of modelling techniques are
common across the gauges and scales, so unless the article is just a
list of models owned with a track plane and pictures (or that is what
the reader wants), there could well be much of interest to someone
even though the scale / gauge is not.
Hmm, I'm not quite sure what you mean by 'identikit locos' but isn't
there tedium in yet another GWR branch line or another 'sector
period' modern image layout, how many GWR Pannier Tanks or class 66's
diesels does one need to see before they become tedious?...
I suspect that RM is trying to break away from the tedium of the
above in covering narrow gauge.
I am full of admiration for those who build historically plausible
narrow-gauge layouts and manage to resist representing NG as something
comically quaint. I would love to see "Borth-y-Gest", which featured in
Railway Modeller recently, but I think I shall scream if faced with
another "witty" pseudo-Welsh punning name, and there really should be a
ban on spiral loops.
I am always surprised at how many narrow-gauge models represent a line
in the preservation era (seemingly in a perpetual 1970s) which yet
manage to enjoy a thriving mineral traffic. Of course people are
entitled to model anything their imagination suggests, but I would
suggest that for historical plausiblity a narrow gauge line on the
British mainland after WW2 should be either passenger-only or
freight-only. (OK, someone will mention the Talyllyn and the Ravenglass
& Eskdale - I shouldn't have started on this, should I?)
What I really want to say is that I'd like to see more narrow gauge
layouts set in their real heyday which was before 1914.
On 09/12/2005 10:21, Andy Kirkham said,
> I am full of admiration for those who build historically plausible
I have seen Borth-y-Gest at Scaleforum one year, and I model to the same
track standards. That layout is as good in the flesh as it appeared in
RM. I have exchanged a few ideas with Paul Holmes - there are extremely
few people following this standard! If you put a blanket ban on spiral
loops, you are excluding the excellent, albeit OO9, layout of Dduallt
(pronounced Thee-acht) by the Wallers, but I do know exactly what you
mean. I really don't like those totally implausible rabbit-warren
layouts, but in this hobby it is each to their own. But yes, those
ridiculous pseudo-Welsh names belong to a different era. There are
plenty of real Welsh names to choose from!
My narrow gauge models are based in the early 1970s. I have a few dozen
coaches in build, and about, oh, zero freight wagons. Have I got the
ratio about right? :-)
I would agree with that, despite modelling 1970s. I find as I get older
(I'm almost 40 now!!!), my interests go further back. The
layout-in-progress featured on my website will be based at some
indeterminate era before the war (either war!), but there will be
running rights for newer stock. This layout is a test bed for these
track standards, as a prelude to Porthmadog Harbour Station in FSNG
(hence the three-way stub point). The track plan is fully Templotted,
but a little ambitious just now. My web pages on this are a bit behind,
I've noticed, so I'll have to correct that over the weekend.
Whilst I'm in a "be nice to the boys from Beer" frame of mind I suppose
I should point out that they were producing their magazine on an annual
CD-ROM years before anyone else bothered, roughly half the price Model
Rail want for their incomplete one as well. Pity about the proprietary
file format :-/.
I'm almost tempted to re-subscribe, even if they don't do any offers
(I'm aware of) on annual subscriptions, unlike BRM's half price offers
or MR's substantial discounts.
I wouldn't call MRs current offers substantial or heavily discounted.
The best I can find is first three months half price as offered in the
MR International supplement. Otherwise it's full price with a "free"
Draper measuring set or a few quid off with an acrylic weathering paint
If there's anything better, please post a pointer!
To be honest folks I can't recall how much I'm paying for Model Rail at
the moment, when my susbscription is close to running out they send a
letter saying ' add another 6 months to your subscription and save 30%'
or something like that.
I've never seen BRM offer 50% off in the public domain, but this seems
to be normal to entice ex subscribers back. It worked on me, even if I
am regretting it :-/.
John, I agree in principle that you don't need to discount a product
thats sells well, but I think both MR and BRM have audited circulations
of around 30,000 : not sure about RM.
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