According to the latest update Southern Region subjects occupy the top five
places so unless you want to see nothing but Southern Region models
announced for the next two years it might be a good idea to get you
nominations in as soon as possible.
And about time to, even the once forgotten LNER has caught up with the LMS
and GWR, in the RTR (steam) market - a nice 'Q' or 700 class perhaps even a
'L', 'K', 'H' a rebuilt WC/BB, one of the 'E' 0-6-2T's or even a 'USA'
class. Oh, and all that on top of an updated Schools !
Then we have all the nice EMU's, both pre '48 and post '48 vintage to chose
And what if we DO want to see nothing but Southern Region models? The SR
is the least well represented of the "Big 4" - a modeller of the 1930 -
1965 period of pretty much any location can find the stock that he needs
RTR these days, although the LNER is still a little lacking, if you
model the SR or BR(S) you are limited to Bulleid Pacifics, a Q1 and
those BR Standards which are available.
So Jinty's, Ivatt tanks, Fowler 4F's, Stanier 4P's were all passenger
express types? And as for the Black 5, 8F and 2P....... Yes, the LMS
does have a lot of Passenger express engines - it also has a lot of
other types too!
What use is a push-pull locomotive without a push-pull coach set?
Who please makes a Stanier 4P?
Not an Ivatt Class 2 2-6-0 or a Stanier 5F or a Stanier 3P or anything else
that carried a 2D shed code.
If only the only thing the Southern modeller could complain of was the
lack of a push-pull set!
My mistake, I meant of course the Fowler 4P from Hornby. Dare I mention
the Fairburn 4MT ?
It wouldnt surprise me if Bachmann eventually got round to making an
Ivatt 2-6-0 using their Ivatt 2-6-2 chassis. My knowledge of the LMS is
not as great as I would like - which Stanier 5F are you talking about?
Hornby produce the Black 5, and Bachmann the Jubille, so I cant think
which loco you mean. As for not carrying the right shed code, I might
argue that none of the Bulleid Pacfics produced by Hornby have carried
the 72A code, but thats what renumbering is designed for!
In message , John Ruddy
may have written...
I think the LNER is the least represented to be honest. Like John said a
lot of the major LMS classes are already produced, as with most of the
GWR types too, and the same for the Southern. As for the SR we have BOB,
MN's, Schools, Q1s, Terriers, Lord Nelsons, N Class, plus the various
standard classes that ran there, so they all have a good selection of
'modern' models to run, apart from the LNER.
Of course there is a complete dearth of pre grouping models, and
considering the amount of pre grouping locos that survived into BR days
and indeed into the 60s, it is a big omission.
Oh come off it, you'll NEVER get all the loco's modelled in RTR, if you want
odd balls or pre grouping loco's you're going to have to kit build (always
have and always will, straightforward economics dictates that..), what were
are talking about here is the means to build a basic set of RTR stock.
As Macmillan once said, "You've never had it so good".....
Unless he was thinking about the 2-6-0 5P tender loco ?
As for not carrying the right shed code, I might
You have to remember that some just want to open boxes and expect their
every wish (read demand) to be granted.....
In last year's poll I said I would settle for a Fairburn but would prefer
the Stanier 2-6-4t
Not unless voters push for it. To me it's a nonsense that Bachmann are
producing the Ivatt Class 4 instead of the Class 2.
It's the 2-6-0 of which 40 examples were produced. They wewre part of the
scenery in the west midlands right up to the withdrawal of steam. I am told
Bachmann is anxious to end prodction of the Jubilee and other split chassis
types and do not necessarilly intend to replace it.
That isn't possible where I live since none of the engines which carried a
2D shedcode are currently available in RTR form.
I don't 'dislike' Southern types I simply have no interest in them. What
matters here is what other readers like. I am second-guessing the reason
that Southern-types dominate the poll is because Southern fans have been
highly active in nominating them while fans of other regions - especially
the LMR - have been too lethargic to bother to vote. Mind you, they'll be
the first to complain when they don't get the models they want.
Actually, he never did. Macmillan was asked a question about 'falling
living standards' to which he replied:- "I read in the latest surveys that
more people in Britain are taking holidays abroad than ever before. There
are more electric refrigerators and other apliances in British homes than
ever before. It seems to me that some our people have never had it so
good?". It was the Daily Mirror next morning which paraphrased the last
sentence as "You've never had it so good!".
"Leave the heavy cannons behind they'll slow us down" [General Custer]
Maybe the SR modellers are just more vociferous, but that doesn't
necessarily mean that Southern products sell. It wasn't five minutes ago
that Bachmann were jobbing out their class N 2-6-0 and the bloody non-stop
supply of Bulleid Pacifics from Hornby are just shelf fillers.
God help us if the promised Southern emu materialises from Hornby and whilst
I'm sure it will sell to some extent or other, it won't keep selling year
after year like their 110 dmu does. Just wish they'd put a decent chassis
under it! :-)