Yup, murdering children is OK, as long as we can depersonalise them by calling them names like "a few aristocrats". Are we supposed to spit on the floor at this point?
Long Live the Glorious Revolution which has brought nothing but unremitting joy and happiness into the lives of the Russian folk!
Cheers, Stalin
It is still legal to display the price in pounds and ounces but only if the price is displayed less prominently than the metric equivalent. The actual weighing must be metric
That's over £50/kg! What sort of cheese is that? At that price, it's no wonder Enzo wears the cheese!
MBQ
There is a cheese here in Sweden which is the worlds most expensive cheese at over £400 per kilo, it is made from moose milk.....the farmer has a few moose (Älg as they are called here) and milks them himself.....rather him than me even if a moose does smell delicious its not enough to make me want to try and milk a half tonne moose.........oh yes just for added intrest there is a thriving industry here bottling moose crap and selling it to German tourists att £10 a jar............ and I'm not joking either...... Beowulf
Is this for the Germans who can't afford the cheese? Seems like an unmissable bargain to me! How is it labelled?
Cheers, Steve
It was a soft French cheese which is normally priced per 100 grams. The ham was nothing special either.
(kim)
Though presuambly Napoleon and Bolsheviks had nothing do with Britain beginning its (painfully slow) metrication, in the second half of the nineteenth century. Allegedly about the time that metre gauge was adopted as one of the standard gauges for the empire of India, and also parts of Africa etc.
My first scratchbuilt loco was an Ivatt 4MT "Mucky Duck". * Someone emailed me a set of plans and I happily set to work. The chassis frames and rods etc were supplied by Alan Gibson and the wheel dimensions where taken straight from the quoted dimensions on the plans. As construction proceeded it became clear that the engine didn't look *quite* right. Eventually I realised the problem. When I printed out the plans I had neglected to double-check the print ratio, which ended up being a touch under 4mm scale.
As virtually everything under the footplate was built from stated dimensions, the chassis, wheels and motion looked right. Everything above the footplate looked slightly undersized, as it was in fact about 3.75mm scale! Nevertheless, once I had finished it, I was very pleased with it as it did seem to capture the character of the Mucky Duck. No one else ever seemed to notice the odd proportions, although to be they were a glaring error.
I'm looking forward to the release of the Bachmann version so that my sadly undersized and misproportioned model can have an honourable retirement. However, I wonder if the Bachmann one will be as powerful and reliable as my inaccurate scratchbuilt version.
You're in favour of starving small children? Ok.
You'd prefer a society where a few people spend their excess wealth on things like Fabergie eggs while millions starve or freeze to death?
The message from "Enzo Matrix" contains these words:
Close! Both by Bachmann...in N gauge.
How many miliion children did Stalin starve to death in the Ukraine between
1932 and 1933?
How many million starved or froze to death in the Goulag Archipelago?
(kim)
Are you suggesting that starving Russian serfs in 1917 could foretell what fate would bring them 15 years in the future???
Well, I'm not aware that the Tsar kept statistics of the fates of his serfs, but I'm sure a high percentage of those on the Goulag Archipelago didn't make it.
Regards, Greg.P.
Good try, but let us keep to the point. It is neither here nor there what
*I* am in favour of. I am commenting on *your* proposition that it is OK to murder children.Cheers, Stalin
I didn't mention children, you did. Certainly I did comment in favour of millions of feudal serfs, including children, not being murdered by the Romanovs. A few million serfs vs a dozen odd royalty - if it has to be murder then I'm for royalty going down Oh, just a small point, the royals of the time started it.
Regards, Greg.P.
Some more good tries, and excellent wriggling technique. But again, let us keep to what is in front of us. We can see from the transcript who mentioned what.
And again it's curious how the murder of children can be made to appear more acceptable by the use of euphemisms such as "royalty going down".
Well, it seems you are unable or unwilling to answer the straightforward question that was put to you by Kim, except by blaming the innocent children, so it hardly seems worthwhile to pursue the point any further.
Cheers, Stalin
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And how many hundreds of millions have been killed by Soviet sponsored communism since? 20 Million or so by the Russians themselves 39-45 (this of course doesn't include the numbers killed during the pogams of the 20s and
30s). China, Africa, SE Asia, Central America?The murderous despotic bastards of the current regime are justified in their actions because they replaced the murderous despotic bastards of the last one is a particularly good answer.
Hi Steve,
I read the more HO-oriented rec.models.railroad as well as this group having a foot in both camps, and I killfiled Greg ages ago due to his incessant refusal to ever admit an opposing point - he'd just change the subject. Eventually I figured he was next-best thing to a troll and haven't seen much of his doctrinaire utterances till this topic.
Ivor
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Wonder how many black Americans will have perished in the Gulf states after Katrina? Different kettle of fish I know, but these poor buggers will have died through incompetence, indifference and maladministration.
John.
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like large rabbit droppings....For some wierd reason Germans love buying it, swedes are only too happy to sell the grockles what they want :) BeowulfBeowulf
Indeed, and it wasn't Greg who first mentioned children.
kim wrote "Which particular crime did the women and children of the family commit which made it 'reasonable' to murder them"
and Steve W wrote "Yup, murdering children is OK"
MBQ
Thanks Ivor. I watched Greg at work during our recent discussion on the London bombings, and I knew exactly what would happen when Kim posed the question.
I don't know why other posters allow him to draw them off the point at issue, but there you go.
I reckon there are two certainties in human affairs:
1) When psychotics get organised and get it into their heads that they have a cause, hundreds or thousands or millions of people end up dead;2) There will always be sad individuals who will bend reality to justify the actions of said psychotics, by effectively "throwing away" the victims.
Sorry to have regurgitated Greg's utterances into your mailbox.
Cheers, Steve
Another good bit of wriggling, but the point at issue is not "who first mentioned" anything.
In your *highy selective* extract, you have forgotten to interpolate Greg's posting
"you'll soon see that a few aristocrats murdered is neither here nor there in the scheme of things."
which was his response to Kim's specific question.
Don't you just love it when the lefties try it on with the Dialectics!
Cheers, Steve
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