Yup, murdering children is OK, as long as we can depersonalise them by
calling them names like "a few aristocrats". Are we supposed to spit on the
floor at this point?
Long Live the Glorious Revolution which has brought nothing but unremitting
joy and happiness into the lives of the Russian folk!
skrev i meddelandet
It is still legal to display the price in pounds and ounces but
only if the price is displayed less prominently than the metric
equivalent. The actual weighing must be metric
That's over £50/kg! What sort of cheese is that? At that price, it's
no wonder Enzo wears the cheese!
There is a cheese here in Sweden which is the worlds most expensive cheese
at over £400 per kilo, it is made from moose milk.....the farmer has a few
moose (Älg as they are called here) and milks them himself.....rather him
than me even if a moose does smell delicious its not enough to make me want
to try and milk a half tonne moose.........oh yes
just for added intrest there is a thriving industry here bottling moose
crap and selling it to German tourists att £10 a jar............ and I'm not
Though presuambly Napoleon and Bolsheviks had nothing do with Britain
beginning its (painfully slow) metrication, in the second half of the
nineteenth century. Allegedly about the time that metre gauge was
adopted as one of the standard gauges for the empire of India, and
also parts of Africa etc.
My first scratchbuilt loco was an Ivatt 4MT "Mucky Duck". * Someone emailed
me a set of plans and I happily set to work. The chassis frames and rods etc
were supplied by Alan Gibson and the wheel dimensions where taken straight
from the quoted dimensions on the plans. As construction proceeded it became
clear that the engine didn't look *quite* right. Eventually I realised the
problem. When I printed out the plans I had neglected to double-check the
print ratio, which ended up being a touch under 4mm scale.
As virtually everything under the footplate was built from stated
dimensions, the chassis, wheels and motion looked right. Everything above
the footplate looked slightly undersized, as it was in fact about 3.75mm
scale! Nevertheless, once I had finished it, I was very pleased with it as
it did seem to capture the character of the Mucky Duck. No one else ever
seemed to notice the odd proportions, although to be they were a glaring
I'm looking forward to the release of the Bachmann version so that my sadly
undersized and misproportioned model can have an honourable retirement.
However, I wonder if the Bachmann one will be as powerful and reliable as my
inaccurate scratchbuilt version.
* I say "first" as though I make a habit of scratchbuilding. I don't. I've
only ever scratchbuilt two engines, my second being a GCR Lord Faringdon,
which was somewhat more accurate as I had learned a valuable lesson from the
Ivatt! I sometimes wonder about the future of scratchbuilding skills, given
that the increasing quality and range of RTR models are forcing kit
manufacturers into producing ever more esoteric prototypes. I hear that in
2006 Hornby will be producing a RTR Claughton while Bachmann have plans for
an LYR Dreadnought... If I say it often enough, it will come true! ;-)
Are you suggesting that starving Russian serfs in 1917 could foretell what fate
would bring them 15 years in the future???
Well, I'm not aware that the Tsar kept statistics of the fates of his serfs, but
I'm sure a high percentage of those on the Goulag Archipelago didn't make it.
I didn't mention children, you did.
Certainly I did comment in favour of millions of feudal serfs, including
children, not being murdered by the Romanovs.
A few million serfs vs a dozen odd royalty - if it has to be murder then I'm for
royalty going down
Oh, just a small point, the royals of the time started it.
Some more good tries, and excellent wriggling technique. But again, let us
keep to what is in front of us. We can see from the transcript who mentioned
And again it's curious how the murder of children can be made to appear more
acceptable by the use of euphemisms such as "royalty going down".
Well, it seems you are unable or unwilling to answer the straightforward
question that was put to you by Kim, except by blaming the innocent
children, so it hardly seems worthwhile to pursue the point any further.
And how many hundreds of millions have been killed by Soviet sponsored
communism since? 20 Million or so by the Russians themselves 39-45 (this of
course doesn't include the numbers killed during the pogams of the 20s and
30s). China, Africa, SE Asia, Central America?
The murderous despotic bastards of the current regime are justified in their
actions because they replaced the murderous despotic bastards of the last
one is a particularly good answer.
| > Certainly I did comment in favour of millions of feudal serfs, including
| > children, not being murdered by the Romanovs.
| > A few million serfs vs a dozen odd royalty - if it has to be murder then
| > I'm for
| > royalty going down
| > Oh, just a small point, the royals of the time started it.
| Some more good tries, and excellent wriggling technique. But again, let us
| keep to what is in front of us. We can see from the transcript who
| And again it's curious how the murder of children can be made to appear
| acceptable by the use of euphemisms such as "royalty going down".
| Well, it seems you are unable or unwilling to answer the straightforward
| question that was put to you by Kim, except by blaming the innocent
| children, so it hardly seems worthwhile to pursue the point any further.
I read the more HO-oriented rec.models.railroad as well as this group having
a foot in both camps, and I killfiled Greg ages ago due to his incessant
refusal to ever admit an opposing point - he'd just change the subject.
Eventually I figured he was next-best thing to a troll and haven't seen much
of his doctrinaire utterances till this topic.
"Chris Wilson" wrote
Wonder how many black Americans will have perished in the Gulf states after
Katrina? Different kettle of fish I know, but these poor buggers will have
died through incompetence, indifference and maladministration.
"Steve W" skrev i meddelandet
like large rabbit droppings....For some wierd reason Germans love buying it,
swedes are only too happy to sell the grockles what they want :)
Indeed, and it wasn't Greg who first mentioned children.
kim wrote "Which particular crime did the women and children of the
family commit which made it 'reasonable' to murder them"
and Steve W wrote "Yup, murdering children is OK"
Thanks Ivor. I watched Greg at work during our recent discussion on the
London bombings, and I knew exactly what would happen when Kim posed the
I don't know why other posters allow him to draw them off the point at
issue, but there you go.
I reckon there are two certainties in human affairs:
1) When psychotics get organised and get it into their heads that they have
a cause, hundreds or thousands or millions of people end up dead;
2) There will always be sad individuals who will bend reality to justify the
actions of said psychotics, by effectively "throwing away" the victims.
Sorry to have regurgitated Greg's utterances into your mailbox.
Another good bit of wriggling, but the point at issue is not "who first
In your *highy selective* extract, you have forgotten to interpolate Greg's
"you'll soon see that a few aristocrats murdered is
neither here nor there in the scheme of things."
which was his response to Kim's specific question.
Don't you just love it when the lefties try it on with the Dialectics!