OO Military Vehicles

Thanks. I knew what it means. What I am trying to ascertain is just how common the term is is in everyday military use. Believe it or not it wasn't a requirment when I studied for the Radio Amateur Exam back in 1970 or my private pilot's license a couple of years before that.

(kim)

"Secular" refers to our social condition as a nation, and is of course open to all kinds of interpretation and debate about whether being secular is a good or a bad thing. "Has Christmas lost its meaning" being a good example. We all know that Christmas is really about getting something new and shiny for the model railway!

I was referring to the *legal* condition. Have a look at any coin of the Realm. The Queen rules by the Grace of God (D.G. or Dei Gratia) and Acts of Parliament have to be approved by the Lords Temporal and Spiritual (Spiritual being the Bishops who sit in the House of Lords). The Archbishop of Canterbury is appointed by the Prime Minister acting for the Queen. Conversely, the Church has to approve the succession of the Monarchy. Marriages can be legalised in Church of England churches but in no other religious establishments.

Vicars hold special status under the law (certifying passport applications etc.).

And so on and so forth.

I have no axe to grind one way or the other (or at least none that I'm prepared to grind on a railway modelling group!), I'm just stating what I believe to be the current legal position, all which could change at any time, of course.

Cheers, Steve

Do you post on umtbvs? Do you get along with the group? I found it to be a very odd place. Some time ago I joined in with a discussion about Willow. I said that I didn't think she was really gay but that she was attracted to the Power in people. I pointed out that her first lover, Oz, although male was also a werewolf. Tara was a witch and Kennedy was a Potential. All three were touched in some manner by the Big Bad and I was of the opinion that it was this Power in them that attracted Willow.

What a controversy I caused! I was flamed by one and all. I was given the epithet The F***wit - I was really proud to see that they capitalised it. Large numbers of people killfiled me. And all because I had dared to offer an opinion that didn't follow received doctrine. I found it all rather ironic considering that Buffy herself spends her life battling against the received doctrine of the Watcher's Council. Needless to say, I no longer post there!

I would imagine this sounds *very* strange to those urmr denizens who have haver seen BtVS! :-)

I've never understood why the abbreviation (DEF) for 'defender of the faith' is still on coins when the faith in question is Roman Catholic. The title was awarded by the Pope to a young King Henry VIII for his academic work as a teenager on the divine right of kings (he had time for this and pastimes like music and sport as he was the younger son so not the next in line until his older brother died).

Alan

Enzo Check Armourfast kits - see

for one supplier. Basic wargamer kits, no decals, but two for =A35.50. There are two versions of the Sherman, an M10 Tank Destroyer and the Achilles Tank destroyer (M10 with 17pdr gun) - the Achilles might do the job for a 1956 layout.

John

"Steve W" wrote

Virtually anyone can do that these days, even I've been asked to oblige and have.

John.

The 'special status' here is purely a case of having an occupation which allows your identity to be verified- it also applies to members of the legal profession, doctors, pharmacists and others where their identity is independently verifiable ( and where the possibility of having abetted someone to gain such a document would cause professional harm, I suspect) Brian

"BH Williams" > wrote

I was informed it applied to shopkeepers, local government officials, civil servants and loads of other too.

John.

"Enzo Matrix"

But it's Enzo who's posting, of course it sounds strange! :-)

-- Cheers Roger T.

Home of the Great Eastern Railway

"Enzo Matrix"

But it's Enzo who's posting, of course it sounds strange! :-)

-- Cheers Roger T.

Home of the Great Eastern Railway

I'm currently the biggest single poster. Essentially, I don't care whether I get on with the group or not. Some of them seem more interested in winning an argument than discussing Buffy. The same is true of uk.media.tv.sf.startrek which is now in rapid terminal decline.

(kim)

Troo! :-)

Thanks for the link John. They also show a Sherman Firefly. I imagine that by 1956 any of these vehicles would be looking very sad and forlorn indeed. No doubt they would have spent a few years as targets on a gunnery range. Exactly the sort of thing I'd want... Thanks again, John.

I've noticed posters like that on another telly oriented group which I infest. We're actually a very happy little community but some people *do* like to pick fights!

Last I heard they couldn't vote for a member of parliament, it being condidered they are already represented by the bishops. That may have changed with the recent reforms of the Lords.

(kim)

In message , John Turner writes

Would they have been entitled to compensation if it could be proved that the foot-and-mouth appeared in their herds/flocks by their own negligence?

"kim" wrote

Not sure about that Kim, if what you say is correct it would disqualify them from representation in the primary legislature, which would seem unlikely. The bishops only sit in the House of Lords.

John.

"Jane Sullivan" wrote

I suspect they could have ended up in court on a change of attempting to obtain cash by deception or something similar.

John.

Having got out of military modelling in my early teens, there are some big gaps in my knowledge. Perhaps someone here can help with a few things? Whilst the Centurion was obviously the main battle tank by the mid 1950s, were any others still in service, perhaps with the Territorials or in some sort of reserve? I recollect the Terriers seemed to survive with hand-me-down soft-skinned vehicles- when I used to pass their base at Meir in the late 1970s, there were some late 50s AEC trucks still in service, along with the round-cabbed Bedfords that preceded the TK derivative. When were the Saracens/Saladins taken out of service? Where were old tanks cut up? I have a feeling that I saw some in a scrapyard next to the South Wales main line near Bridgend back in the 1960s. I remember a lot of military hardware at places like Giant's Grave, near Jersey Marine, but it was almost all soft-skinned stuff and ships. At about the same time, I remember going to the Battle of Britain airshows at St Athan, where the public car park was in amongst large numbers of condemned aircraft- mainly Valiants and Javelins IIRC- can't see that sort of thing being allowed now. Brian