Re: Bachmann innovations.

Phil: That's precisely his point: UK market - British Bullied Stock If they had said OO market, that would be different

The UK market includes OO HO N etc Its yet another example of impresise 'journalisn'

Jouef Class 40 with removeable couplings = 1977

Lima Class 20 with can motor, flywheel and cardan shaft drive = 1985.

(kim)

"Phil" wrote

Sorry, I misread his post.

John.

"kim" wrote

No flywheel on the Lima 20 if I remember correctly.

John.

IIRC, the Airfix 31 had removeable couplings 2-3 years earlier.

Or even, "it's imprecise" . . . . .

:-)

Didn't some Farish Locos, the 90, I think have a flywheel in the drive system not sure if it's before bachmann did though.

You do remember correctly. I misread Darren Sherwood's article in Model Rail where he replaced Lima's non-flywheel motor with Branchlines' Mashima and flywheel.

(kim)

You remember correctly. I misread Darren Sherwood's article in which he replaced Lima's motor with a Mashima motor and flywheel.

(kim)

"Rich Mackin" wrote

All Airfix stock had removable couplings, but I don't see the relevence. Bachmann are claiming NEM couplings shafts (think they mean pockets) and in that area they are the first, although Hornby have since followed on *some* of their range.

John.

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Good one, I *think* they possibly did or were they equipped with that silly flexible spring drive? In any event would that pre-date the Bachmann 24/25s which were the first OO-scale ones to have flywheel drive?

John.

Weren't there some Farish loco's in the 1950's with some weird and wonderful (2-pole) motors with flywheels?

Or even 'journalism'?

:-)

-- Cheers Roger T.

Home of the Great Eastern Railway

Bachmann in North America, when the introduced their 2-8-0 over ten years ago now, were responsible for the introduction of affordable, well detailed, well running, steam locos that ran as well as diesels. was so impressed that withiness than six months of it's introduction, the GER had gone from 100% 1972 diesel, to being back dated to 1958. I did this just to run the 2-8-0, of which I now own five or six.

Sadly though, the price of new model steam has shot through the roof in the past two or three years, as has all model railroad equipment. The Bachmann

2-8-0 still has a MSRP of about US$150, but you can get them for far less, recently introduced model steam are in the MSRP of US$300 to $400 range.

Even Athearn shake the box freight cars have gone from around US$5.00 each to US$12.00 and they are now producing much of their stock as "Ready to Roll" in the US$20.00 range. Here in Canada, that translates into about Can$35.00 or more.

-- Cheers Roger T.

Home of the Great Eastern Railway

It says something for the model press that after eight years of regularly buying UK model railway magazines I still didn't know what NEM couplings actually were? I had to look them up on Nigel Burkin's web site.

(kim)

Have they published standards for the position of the UK NEM pockets anywhere? I just tried an NEM coupler on a Bachmann wagon and the Bachmann coupler in a European wagon pocket but the heights are wrong/different. Bachmann might be the only manufacturer of UK models using the new "standard".

Regards, Greg.P.

Bachmann UK models use several NEM pocket heights, I don't think they ever heard of standard, they just change whatever some reviewer criticises and see if the comments next time are better or worse. And, unlike the nmra, NEM don't publish a standard for 00.

Keith Make friends in the hobby. Visit Garratt photos for the big steam lovers.

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I've checked with someone who knows and the chapter & verse is:-

with flywheel fitted on the armature. The type 4 from 1996-1997 approximately was also fitted with spring final drive to the bogies

So that's another Bachmann claimed first, which is proving untrue.

John.

LOL! I was looking to create a coupler conversion wagon for testing British OO locos with my European stock and wanted something prettier than the old Lima FS/BR low side open with the brakesman's cab. Did the BR run a lot of those?

The NMRA 00 standard is for US 00, check out the 19mm track gauge.

Regards, Greg.P.