Death nell of Nitro??

For some reason, Americans have this aversion to diesel cars. Could be from the crap conversions GM did about 25 years ago turned everyone off. Or the appalling dealer reputations of the Peugeot and Renault offerings of the same period. VW has been making them and selling millions in Europe all along. Remember the Rabbit? I heard that this is the last year they will sell them in the US. Too bad as they are much cleaner than gasoline for CO2 emissions. Honda and Renault have new versions that put out virtually no soot (particulates) which has kept them out of several areas for a long time.

So, Hsrley took over Buell around 1998? about the same time as this?

Wrong, the majority shareholder is the shareholder that owns more stock than anyone. If someone owns 40% of the stock and the next largest shareholder owns 5% then the 40% owner is the majority shareholder, he can call the shots unless enough minority shareholders can agree to vote against him. To have more than 50% of the stock is called the controling shareholder because there is no way to outvote him.

Hmmm, why is that site sponsered by a competing motorcycle company?

What do you expect, NJ no less. Schools seem fine here in Cobb Co. Georgia, but sometimes the no tolerance policy seems a bit silly.

Sorry, Got that backwords, you were right Grant. Majority shareholder is one who owns 50%, a controlling shareholder is a majority shareholder or a shareholder who may own less than 50% but the other shareholders do not own a significant amount and show no intrest in organizing against the largest shareholder.

Now you're just making shit up.

VIBRATING BED!!!

No I just got it backwards! At least I didn't make an ass of myself!

Where on earth did you come up with this? Majority is a number greater than half of a total.

A majority shareholder is: "A single shareholder who controls more than half of a corporation's outstanding shares, or sometimes, one of a small group of shareholders who collectively control more than half of a corporation's outstanding shares." If it's not more than half, it's not a majority.

A controlling shareholder is: "One with 30% or more of the voting capital, or any shareholder able to control the composition of the board of directors."

I once tried to explain to an HR person why her statement that in 15 years (or something like that) "60% of the population will be minorities" could not be true. _That_ was a waste of time.

Would it not be true if 20% were blacks, 20% were asian and 20% were hispanic? As individual groups they would still be minorities.

No.

True.

However, the 30% group (presuming the remaining 30% is a single group) is also a minority. There would be 100% minorities. As soon as the largest group drops below 50%, then _everybody_ is a minority.

By definition a majority must be over 50% of the total. I thought we just covered that...

What is it about southerners and their hatred for NJ? I've witnessed this all of my life and I have never understood how a tiny little state such as NJ could evoke so much dislike amongst our southern friends.

I now live in Georgia, which I like very much, but I spent the majority of my life in NJ (born in southwest VA). All I have to do to kill a conversation down here is to mention that I am from NJ. Conversation over.

Guys, it is just a place. Just like any place else.

Maybe General Sherman put a big explosive charge under Atlanta and only the Georgians know that the fuse leads all the way back to NJ?

Ed Cregger

Well it is perfectly possible.

60% of the poulation can't be A minority, but 60% of the population, split into very small categorioes and taken individually, could be.

Now you are getting to a very impoartnt social point....:-)

Jes but nothing says that 5 minorities can't make a majority...

Depends on which part of the dictionary definition you use.

of one who has attained this age

majority over the remainder of the total : MARGIN c : the preponderant quantity or share

Grants definition is 3a. Pauls is 3b. and 4. But I would use Grants definition in a statistics, political science, or law test.

Lots of controlling shareholders control the board of directors with less than 30% share. But they are always in danger of someone buying up shares or working out agreements with other shareholders.

Who said I hate NJ? I have relatives in NY, its just that it is a very liberal state with lots of PC. Not that we are without PC in Georgia, especially in downtown ATL.

The remaining 40% is _also_ a minority. Everybody (100% of the population) is a minority in the case you describe.