FAA Notification on Large Model Rockets

Wipe your face.

HAAAAA!

So what does this bullshit you quote that was never posted apply to this thread?

It didn't work.

Two problems.

1. On EXEMPT flights (model rockets or Large Model Rockets) there is no real-time contact with the user by FAA to be ABLE to ask them to stop.

They are operating unilaterally and on VFR.

1. On waivered flights (HPR) there is no real-time contact with the user (90% of the time) by FAA to be ABLE to ask them to stop.

Thanks for listening.

Jerry

If jerry doesn't make the thread about himself, he is not happy and fulfilled.. However, haven't you noticed, even the fellow from De Pere WI is not responding to poor jerry.

Man, my head. You would think you guys were debating contest rules or something.

IMHO A reasonable request could be along the lines of: Emergency Deployment of aircraft - ie -> State Police Helicopter responding to medical emergency... Marine Force One (ala Bob Kaplow) buzzing through town -> i'm pretty sure that the ATC's are not notified of the flight before hand due to security risks... Redirected flights due to airport closure..

Well, I just placed Stevie boy in my kill file here at work. Maybe I'll get home early enough before he sits down to the key board..(:-) I know my KF has sure made a difference in the amount of jerry BS postings I see. Now if everyone else would just ignore jerry, (at least his BS posts), I would not even see his second hand postings. I'm trying Tweaky, really I am, honest..(;-)

Fred

Fred

The issue with rockets is typically not with airports. It is in open flight area. Hence VFR since that is the only effective prophylactic to accidents to begin with.

Rockets should be exempt up to the size and power of mid-size light aircraft. BUT VFR should be TRAINED for RSO's and a "merit badge" received for completion.

There would still be alt bands, 8000 AGL generally, and higher with waiver.

Jerry

That would have substance to the debate because the parties have a stake in the outcome.

The defect with this thread is Fred is neither engaged nor interested in an outcome.

Steven is more focused on a rational process, but also has no endpoint.

The lines do not cross. Crossing the streams must be bad :)

Jerry

"It's all about Jerry." "Well...maybe 80%, followed by 15% BATF and 5% rocketry :-p"

- Niall Oswald

"Alas, the problem isn't posts FROM Jerry. It's endless posts ABOUT Jerry. They come from Phil, Fred, Dave, Ray, and even occasionally from me!"

- Bob Kaplow

One of the folks we "caught" was buzzing the field at an illegally low altitude. The site owner was trying to catch them for a while. We got the N number, and reported it to the FAA. They investigated but "could not place the pilot in the plane" whick probably means the jerk hadn't filed a flight plan for his buzzing...

Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD!

I didn't realize Jerry and Greg were such good friends. Of course we all know that Jerry is 'Special.'

In the case we reported, buzzing a crowd at an altitude well under 500'

Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD!

Poor Jerry.

We know that. But Greg works and flies from a federal facility. THe local airport manager (burrocrat, NOT FAA) repeatedly tried to shut down his launches. My response was to suggest that the Gov facility create a "no fly" zone over their site to keep the air space clear for Greg's rockets :-)

Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD!

Most of the time when there is a conflict between rocket folks and airport folks, the rocket folks know the regs better than the airport folks.

Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD!

Due to the fact that ignorance of the law is not an option, we have to know the regs for our own sake, or we end up in Shitz Creek without a paddle. The airport folks don't generally deal with rocketry regs on a day to day basis so it comes as no great surprise to learn that they don't know the regs as well as we do.

Which shows how hard it is to get busted by the FAA. ATF could learn a thing or two.

After all, if FAA was zero tolerance, Rogers would be in a federal prison right now for his 25,000 foot flight at a site that never had over 15,000 feet.

Jerry