FAA Notification on Large Model Rockets

Yes.

That's right.

That's what the question was about.

Why?

Let them. If that somebody else can demonstrate all regulations were adhered to they have no case.

While I was an early respondent in this thread I did not start it, Tom Koszuta did.

Why can't you provide any details?

Yes, but that has nothing to do with suspending rocketry operations.

None of that has anything to do with rocketry.

On that you are correct.

I guess some people prefer to remain ignorant.

Aircraft operations in the vicinity are already covered.

§ 101.23 Operating limitations.

No person may operate an unmanned rocket-

(a) In a manner that creates a collision hazard with other aircraft;

(b) In controlled airspace;

(c) Within five miles of the boundary of any airport;

(d) At any altitude where clouds or obscuring phenomena of more than five-tenths coverage prevails;

(e) At any altitude where the horizontal visibility is less than five miles;

(f) Into any cloud;

(g) Within 1,500 feet of any person or property that is not associated with the operations; or

(h) Between sunset and sunrise.

(Sec. 6(c), Department of Transportation Act (49 U.S.C. 1655(c)))

[Doc. No. 1580, 28 FR 6722, June 29, 1963, as amended by Amdt. 101-4, 39 FR 22252, June 21, 1974]

Explain.

What was the altitude of the aircraft and how did you determine it?

A flight plan is not required.

How did you determine the altitude? Where did this occur?

Keeping in mind i already went full circle on that and TRA punished me for my innocence anyway.

Jerry

You heard wrong. If it was knowing on my part, maybe, but it was not. The FIELD preflight estimate was 13,000feet.

Rogers knowingly since he later admitted the LAB preflight was actually

33,000 feet. He published the evidence :)

Jerry

I am not sure buzzing a collection of folks in an open field is an FAA violation of any kind. It is annoying. Maybe disruptive to a rocket launch. But illegal?

Jerry

It certainly can be, it depends on where it happened, the airplane's altitude above the ground and, whether or not it was operating at a nearby airport.

Title 14: Aeronautics and Space

PART 91-GENERAL OPERATING AND FLIGHT RULES

§ 91.119 Minimum safe altitudes: General.

Except when necessary for takeoff or landing, no person may operate an aircraft below the following altitudes:

(a) Anywhere. An altitude allowing, if a power unit fails, an emergency landing without undue hazard to persons or property on the surface.

(b) Over congested areas. Over any congested area of a city, town, or settlement, or over any open air assembly of persons, an altitude of 1,000 feet above the highest obstacle within a horizontal radius of 2,000 feet of the aircraft.

(c) Over other than congested areas. An altitude of 500 feet above the surface, except over open water or sparsely populated areas. In those cases, the aircraft may not be operated closer than 500 feet to any person, vessel, vehicle, or structure.

(d) Helicopters. Helicopters may be operated at less than the minimums prescribed in paragraph (b) or (c) of this section if the operation is conducted without hazard to persons or property on the surface. In addition, each person operating a helicopter shall comply with any routes or altitudes specifically prescribed for helicopters by the Administrator.

PHL (Philly) closes airport for whatever reason (crash, fuel spill, weather conditions) and reroutes flights to BWI. The reroute takes them over airspace that you had a waiver for. I know this is a far stretch but COULD happen and wouldn't be foreseable and not one to question ATC/FAA about when they ask you to cease and decist all air operations.

Just my 2 cents.

Even if that happened.

1. Unwaivered operations would remain unaffected.

1. Waivered operations that had already been activated (telephonically approved) would remain open.

Jerry

Do you mean activity that was actually unsafe or activity that a pilot felt was unsafe? Why would he report it to the "local airport people"? What could they do about it?

None, I'm asking about specific instances referred to by others. It was said these aircraft should be reported, but nobody said what it is that should be reported.

I don't know, what's the experience?

When I speculate I clearly identify it as speculation.

That is indeed pretty conclusive.