FAA Notification on Large Model Rockets

Again, there is no waiver and aircraft operations in the vicinity of the launch are already covered by FAR 101.23(a).

Reply to
Steven P. McNicoll
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Because.

David "two can play this game" Erbas-White

Reply to
David Erbas-White

What game is that? I'm prepared to answer any question you ask and provide supporting documentation. That is something you will not do.

Reply to
Steven P. McNicoll

Then you misunderstand.

I didn't ASK you any questions, or ask for any supporting documentation.

I provided reasonable scenarios for why folks would adhere to a request from an ATC.

I stated that I know that some of the scenarios are true, but that I can't go any farther than that.

There are several reasons why one could not provide further information, especially for some of the scenarios provided (though for those who may be thinking the worst, these are 'legal' reasons, not 'illegal' reasons ).

You are free to draw your own conclusions, I've provided all the input I'm going to provide here.

David Erbas-White

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David Erbas-White

How so?

I didn't say you did.

No, you provided an unreasonable scenario for why folks would adhere to a request from ATC.

If it was true you could provide details.

Actually, there is only one reason.

I have already drawn the only possible conclusion, your withdrawal is understandable.

Reply to
Steven P. McNicoll

That behavior is punished on rmr.

Reply to
Jerry Irvine

How come YOU get the benefit of the doubt? :)

Reply to
Jerry Irvine

Not necessarily. He could just be buligerant. On rmr that is the baseline assumption.

Jerry

Reply to
Jerry Irvine

Well, looks like I was wrong, both are talking to each other now.

Reply to
W. E. Fred Wallace

What's "buligerant"?

Reply to
Steven P. McNicoll

"Fool me once shame on you...Fool me twice shame on me"

Reply to
Benjamin Chapman

See there you go again, calling names and confirming your position as an A$$ HOLE. Are you a native of WI? Most of the folks I know in the Green Bay area, are much better at communicating.

Reply to
W. E. Fred Wallace

I have not engaged in any name-calling.

Reply to
Steven P. McNicoll

Perception is everything isn't it??

Are you a native of WI? Most of the folks I know in the Green Bay area, are much better at communicating.

Reply to
W. E. Fred Wallace

Not necessarily. WAIVER 101: The issuer of the waiver can cancel it at any time for any reason. Yep... You sure know all about this stuff.

Reply to
Greg Cisko

Actually it shows that the rocket people do not have a chance against pilots in an incident the FAA has to deal with. We are the bacteria of the system.

Reply to
Greg Cisko

I believe my FAA contact told me that pilots have to remain above

750ft, which is why the AMA people do not have to worry as their activities happen at 400ft and below.
Reply to
Greg Cisko

No.

Yes.

It's unlikely you know anyone that communicates better than me.

Reply to
Steven P. McNicoll

There are pilots vs. FAA incidents and there are rocket people vs. FAA incidents, but there are no pilots vs. rocket people incidents.

Reply to
Steven P. McNicoll

Title 14: Aeronautics and Space

PART 91-GENERAL OPERATING AND FLIGHT RULES

§ 91.119 Minimum safe altitudes: General.

Except when necessary for takeoff or landing, no person may operate an aircraft below the following altitudes:

(a) Anywhere. An altitude allowing, if a power unit fails, an emergency landing without undue hazard to persons or property on the surface.

(b) Over congested areas. Over any congested area of a city, town, or settlement, or over any open air assembly of persons, an altitude of 1,000 feet above the highest obstacle within a horizontal radius of 2,000 feet of the aircraft.

(c) Over other than congested areas. An altitude of 500 feet above the surface, except over open water or sparsely populated areas. In those cases, the aircraft may not be operated closer than 500 feet to any person, vessel, vehicle, or structure.

(d) Helicopters. Helicopters may be operated at less than the minimums prescribed in paragraph (b) or (c) of this section if the operation is conducted without hazard to persons or property on the surface. In addition, each person operating a helicopter shall comply with any routes or altitudes specifically prescribed for helicopters by the Administrator.

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Steven P. McNicoll

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