FAA Notification on Large Model Rockets

Perfect.

Look for 1990-92.

Scan the ones that STATE a 15,000 foot cieling.

(MSL)

Poor Jerry

So let's see the waiver for that launch.

jerry, don't forget to show us the blanket waiver for 15,000 feet.

No matter how many times I show you, you act like it did not exist.

Why?

Are you a moron too?

Rhetorical question.

Re: Individual date waivers for the time at issue for CER.

IF I publish that waiver it will be the final nail in his coffin. No thanks.

Our country needs to squander a few more $Billion on airbreathers still.

Jerry

"> So the AIAA Technical Committees have spoken. These nozzles are > aerospikes.

BATF has spoken. They were wrong. TRA has spoken. SU motor manufacturing requires a LEMP. They were wrong. You have spoken. All AT 18mm reloads are certified. You were "wrong". Question authority. They seem imperfect. I noted you snipped my suggestion. To simply coin more specific terms to address the obvious debate. It worked for me: MRT It worked for Mike Nelson: HPR magazine It worked for Gary Rosenfield: Restricted Access. :)"

"Scramjets - An ingenious answer to a non-existent problem."

"What you call History, I remember as current events."

you can't publish that waiver, it doesn't exist. you never filed for it.

Showing a waiver obtained AFTER you were put on notice about your waiver less launches doesn't count.

Uh, that ad doesn't give a _maximum_ altitude. It merely asks that you be notified of flights over 8000 feet.

Yea, an attempted elusion, fueled by his delusionary thinking or, evidence of taking liberties with the truth; take your pick, or choose ,"all of the above"..(:-)

But apparently not by the FAA.

Only if he had actually hit an airplane. There are only civil penalties for FAR violations.

So CER violates the published waiver and gets a record, but Jerry gets kicked out. What happened to the folks who ran the waiverless Danville launch that was less than a mile from a VOR? What happened to the Wisconsin folks who flew for years at Bong without waivers? They are still TRA members...

Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD!

I don't think Tavares flew a contest since RMR started.

Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD!

1000' minimum altitude over populated areas, 500' otherwise. This plane was WELL under 500' repeatedly. IIRC he may have been shooting touch and go landings, down to a few feet altitude.

Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD!

What has proximity to a VOR have to do with anything?

Fermilab has had recent issues with the DuPage airport management.

Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD!

Naah, he'd probably be out on parole now...

Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD!

The 1000' minimum altitude is the distance above the highest obstacle within a horizontal radius of 2000' of the aircraft, not the distance above the ground.

Minimum altitudes do not apply to aircraft landing or taking off.

How did you determine his altitude?

Title 14: Aeronautics and Space

PART 91-GENERAL OPERATING AND FLIGHT RULES

§ 91.119 Minimum safe altitudes: General.

Except when necessary for takeoff or landing, no person may operate an aircraft below the following altitudes:

(a) Anywhere. An altitude allowing, if a power unit fails, an emergency landing without undue hazard to persons or property on the surface.

(b) Over congested areas. Over any congested area of a city, town, or settlement, or over any open air assembly of persons, an altitude of 1,000 feet above the highest obstacle within a horizontal radius of 2,000 feet of the aircraft.

(c) Over other than congested areas. An altitude of 500 feet above the surface, except over open water or sparsely populated areas. In those cases, the aircraft may not be operated closer than 500 feet to any person, vessel, vehicle, or structure.

(d) Helicopters. Helicopters may be operated at less than the minimums prescribed in paragraph (b) or (c) of this section if the operation is conducted without hazard to persons or property on the surface. In addition, each person operating a helicopter shall comply with any routes or altitudes specifically prescribed for helicopters by the Administrator.

Fermilab is "rocket folks"? What were the issues?

Not sure what would happen if you hit a piloted aircraft with a rocket or a piloted aircraft buzzing folks, caused an accident involving injury, death, or damage to property, but simple violations of FAA rules, such as waver violations or pilot below minimums, normally result in civil penalties, not criminal charges and convictions. I couls be wrong, but that's what I remember.

Fred