God bless Ronald Reagan



What a jerk you are.
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If only you were merely ignorant...
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My tribute to Ronald Reagan and his contributions!
Thank you Mr. Reagan for being the first to introduce Trickle Down Voodoo Economics to this country!
Your first success was to give Daddy Bush a tax cut. You were responsible for lowering Daddy Bush's taxes from 45% to 12%. Directly related to your tax cuts for the wealthy and in order for you to pay for your tax cuts, all the mental hospitals were shut down. Our streets, for the first time since the depression, held millions of delusional people who decorated our street corners, park benches, storm sewers, and developed a whole new meaning for the cardboard box. They became the home for the mentally ill.
Since most of the mentally ill lacked the knowledge to obtain a permanent address, and since they couldn't consider a cardboard box as a permanent address, most of our delusional victims didn't qualify for social security. That suited you and Nancy just fine. It allowed more money in our social security fund for the wealthy. Many of the mentally ill made their home on the White House steps. They slept there at night. I must congratulate Nancy for taking her greed to heart by contacting the local police department to remove the homeless from her view because they disturbed her. The lady was all heart.
I remember distinctly how you and Nancy felt that the poor in this country were well fed, including fresh vegetables, for which you both deemed that catsup was indeed, fresh vegetables!
I resent terribly Mr. Reagan that you didn't get the chance, not once, to spend one night on a park bench or storm sewer in your serious mental condition. And as it ended, you passed in the comfort of your nice warm, clean room, attended by your caretaker, and never spent one night cold, miserable or hungry night before your passing. Life is just not fair!
I want to remind you and to congratulate you for turning, Ohio, Michigan, and Pennsylvania into a desolate ghost states by outsourcing their jobs. When all the steel companies went down, of course that also destroyed the auto industry.
I remember the day the stock market crashed and it was later referred to Black Monday. All of us who were working and raising kids at that time really appreciated your tax cut. Mine actually gave me and extra $1.78 more money on my pay check. My neighbor really appreciated it too. His job went belly up and his company went out of business. He then went on to become a school traffic cop and raised his family on peanuts.
Directly related to your tax cuts for the wealthy the hospital I worked in had to close down floors and the sick were not admitted. You cut Social Security Medicare and the sick and elderly who did make it into the hospital had a limit of three days to stay regardless of condition or procedure. When funds were cut, the emergency room was forced to turn away terminally ill patients. One friend died right outside the emergency room door due to lack of health care insurance. Another severely burned baby was wrapped with silver nitrate bandages, given a shot of Demerol and sent home to dehydrate from loosing fluid from his bursted blisters. That's when the family discovered the life saving value of Gatorade because of its high concentration of electrolytes which takes the place of IV's solution. (AND LET'S NOT FORGET THE DENIAL OF THE AIDS ISSUE - Susie)
Because of your tax cuts for the wealthy the deficit soured higher then ever in history causing interest rates to climb out of sight. (TRIPLED the deficit actually - Susie)
And oh yes, I remember your union-busting policy. I particularly remember how the air controllers went out on strike and you replaced them with inexperienced air controller and broke the union and strike. Don't you remember all the mid air in flight near misses, after you did that. You should since you, yourself had a near miss. Couldn't have happened to a better guy.
The highlight of your reign was when unemployment hit Twelve and a half percentage. Our economy was in shambles, corporate executives applied for food stamps, highly educated people became a new static referred to as unemployable due to being over qualified. That was the one that really impressed me as to how well your tax cuts had helped the rich.
Then I remember how Daddy Bush claimed to bring a kinder more gentler administration after you left because of term limits. He vowed not to raise taxes because of your tax cuts for the wealthy. But even Daddy Bush, after his statement, " Read My Lips, No New Taxes" found it impossible not to raise taxes because of your tax cuts, and he was forced to raise taxes.
I only regret that people had not remembered your reign. Had they remembered, we could have avoided repeating your mistake by allowing Bush Jr. to invade the Whitehouse and rekindle your sorry, voodoo economic program? So here we are at the turn of the century, making the same, sad, mistake all over again. Mr. Reagan you brought upon this country a bad situation. We now write you a bad Eulogy. If you don't remember history, you're bound to repeat it.
Undeservingly, RIP.
And let's not forget: Joking While Testing Microphone: "My fellow Americans, I'm pleased to tell you today that I've signed legislation that will outlaw Russia forever. We begin bombing in five minutes."
- Susie
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Thus releasing:
Voice of reason Dave Grayvis Beetle Boy Dunbar etc.

There is no social security fund.

Those are mere "dislocation costs".

Change to private funding, not government supported funding?

That was a good one :)

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Brother, what a bunch of twisted crap. Here's what I remember as one who was in uniform from Ford through Reagan and as a professional historian who has honestly gone back and studied the man against other presidents..
1. Before Reagan, the US was a laughing stock among nations. We even berated ourselves after Vietnam, Nixon, and the miserable attempt to rescue our hostages in Iran. After Reagan, the world didn't laugh so much any more and a new level of respect was afforded the White House.
2. Before Reagan, the military was in decline. Shoot, Congress often held up our pay checks while bootstrapping some useless pork barrel legislation onto our pay legislation. After Reagan, we got paid on time every time and we got raises too. I was an E5 SSgt and toped out at $680 per month. Before RR, I topped out at $520. Just in case you don't believe this, I've still got the IRS forms.
3. Ronald Reagan and his administration brought the Cold War to a close. Period. One may argue that he just happened to be in office when the inevitable finally came to fruition but that's speculative at best. Star Wars SDI broke the back of the USSR. Their mess in Afghanistan may have started the downward spiral but the SDI hoax drove home the final nail.
4. Trickle down economics is not new nor is it particularly Reaganesque. Take a good long look at FDR's NRA. If the WPA, REA, AAA, and the rest of that alphabet soup isn't a form of trickle down economics I don't know what is. it does bring prosperity for those who have something germane to offer. It also tends to harm the folks at the bottom. I didn't care much for it and personally think there are better ways to do things. however, it certainly ended the double-digit inflation that plagued us since the end of the VN war.
5. The unions attempted an illegal strike and got burned. Defy federal authority and you do so at your own risk. The ATC folks were messing with our economy and national security. There were other legal ways of accomplishing their goals but they would have taken longer. Their own arrogance and impatience did them in. And FWIW, I am presently a union member and have been for two decades. I believe in unions, find them necessary, but also know they can become a tyrannical force in and of themselves if not checked by law. PATCO deserved what it got.
6. I believe, after years of study on the issue, that Ronald Reagan broke the law in the Iran-Contra affair. I'm certain of it. That was clearly a black mark on his administration. Was it unique to RR? No. Shoot, Lincoln Teddy Roosevelt, FDR, Johnson and a host of others also did things that were illegal. In the case of Lincoln, had he lived longer he would have been embroiled in one hell of a legal mess with either one of two cases pending dealing with an illegal declaration of martial law and the suspension of habeas corpus. An administration needs to be judged by the whole of its effectiveness not by any one single issue. Even in the case of Clinton, a man for whom I have very little regard. Still, his administration was far from the worst in our history and actually accomplished many positive things.
Finally, what one must admit if one is honest is that Ronald Reagan restored much prestige and power to our nation's image. Under his watch we were able to emerge from under the dark cloud of Vietnam and Watergate. The White House was made formal again and for a time, terrorists and rogue states took notice and feared us. I think history will ultimately view him as one of our better leaders. Unfortunately, most Americans are plagued by an incomplete and often distorted knowledge of history that's heavy on anecdotal hearsay and weak on evidential fact. It comes for the very complexity of our nation's issues and the nature of television news. Half truths and anecdotes are disseminated over and over again. Rarely is any thing researched and tested against fact. Equally bad is the way in which we tend to view incidents as isolated occurrences outside of their context as a whole. This creates a very distorted and apriori kind of folk knowledge. In simple terms what I'm saying is this. All too often we expect the worst, find examples to support our expectations and stop right there without going on to find examples that mitigate or balance the negative. And, because this info is so "juicy" we pass it along as gospel with the net result being that most Americans are terribly misinformed. It's hard work to ferret out the truth of an issue and requires special tools and learning to do it. That's why so many of us are willing to leave that task up to others and in the end, accept the condensed and highly symbolized and sloganized spin. The world just isn't black and white. All too often it is gray. Reagan is just such a case in point. Like so many of us, he was a mixture of good and bad, of arrogance and humility, of wisdom and foolhardiness...and his presidency was a reflection of this.
In the end, what counts is this: an American president is dead. Love him or hate him, he was us. I'll be flying my flag at half staff. God bless us all, a great one has left us.
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R. J. Talley
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Great, another anonymous dirtbag troll. :P
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snipped-for-privacy@aol.com (RayDunakin) wrote in message

I was thinking more along the lines of douchebag.
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Best preisdent we've had in the last 50 years and he replaced or repaired a great deal of what Mr. Peanut aka Jimmy Carter, tried to destroy or give away.
Randy
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No, it was Ike who sent the first "Advicers" to Vietnam, HE started the deal. Better read your History.
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Oh I hate to correct you but actually, the first US military advisors were dropped into Vietnam in the spring of 1945 in an attempt to build up the Viet Minh and the anti-japanese resistance. Later, when Truman decided to back the French demand for recontrol over their former colony (1946), we began pouring a million dollars a month into Indochina and the French bid to demolish the Viet Minh. I read my history:)
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Better read some more history. US involvement in Vietnam began under Truman when he provided assistance to the French in restoring colonial rule.
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Washington Bullets wrote:

...
well said, exactly what I have been thinking lately... note to RMR naysayers - yer all selfish ignoramuses.
whatever he was in active life, I think his death is a relief. if you've ever known an Alzhiemers' patient you know what I mean.
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Washington Bullets wrote:

Now I know why I stopped reading RMR. If I had read this when it was originally posted, I would have ripped the poster a new A-hole. :( Still in self-imposed RMR exile.
Mark Simpson NAR 71503 Level II God Bless our peacekeepers
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Joel Corwith wrote:

Lots of activity there, and I do skim and have posted, but I find the format very awkward to use. Give me the good ol' NNTP format.
Dave
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An Ally and Good freind to Australia.
God Bless

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FTR Americans love Australia.
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Funnily enough Australians perfer you Yanks to our Poms (English pig dogs). You guys dont complain about everything here

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We save the whining for domestic issues :)
And we don't have a superiority complex.

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Been to Australia twice. People ask me what it's like. I always tell them. Just like America, only the people are nicer!
In any case HPR on a summer day right after Christmas...
How can it get any better?
Also, you can get McDonald's fried apple pies still.

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