More Tripoli hypocrisy?

On my daily commute I see cops doing 80 in a 55...

Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD!

The lack of medical IMHO makes it COUNTERPRODUCTIVE because when being sued for the loss one cause of action will be neglegence for getting insurance WITHOUT medical, and treble damages will be awarded.

Kinda an insurance version of attractive nuisance.

Jerry

I think TRA's insurance does cover the club and landowner if a non-member causes an incident. Says so on their website but of course no one can see the actual policy.

-John

Especially when it's close to shift change...

If it did, then wh the concern about non member guests flying???

Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD!

NAR members ARE allowed to fly at TRA launches. Only non-NAR, non-TRA flyers are not allowed, and that's because they aren't certified for high power if they are not a member of one of these two clubs.

They haven't tithed to Orem of course and are not subject to threat of removal from the club if they speak out.

Jerry

I am NOT exaggerating.

They aren't even allowed to fly MR/LMR, because they don't have insurance. TRA only allowed INSURED NAR members to fly at TRA launches, until NAR got its new policy that is bundled in. Now all NAR members are insured, and can fly.

But 70% of my section are not NAR or TRA. They can fly at NAR launches, but not TRA launches.

Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD!

I don't get the extra $20 a head for LDRS insurance. Seems like you either have insurance or you don't.

Phil

On 17 Jul 2003 21:55:56 -0500, kaplow snipped-for-privacy@encompasserve.org.TRABoD (Bob Kaplow) wrote:>

Phil Stein

I believe the current NAR policy is no longer primary for any of the insured parties. The primary level for site owners was in the older policy through SFA, I think.

I've heard that NAR members can request a copy of the policy from the carrier, and some have received it.

I've also heard that some TRA members have tried to get an actual copy of the policy and were told they couldn't get it. But that could just be a bad rumor (I don't know of this first hand).

-John (this message *does* c>

But as you know idf they violate the speed limit and are not actively persuing someone (as evidenced by a call-in) they are breaking the law. The only thing saving them is there are not teraams of consumer certified radar wielding consumers mak=ing lotsa of citizens arrests. Perhaps its time for a combo vidcam and radar device.

Jerry

If it was merely sent to people who ASK, very few would ask (people like me and cato, and kaplow, and shockwaverider and perhaps leaders of each others boards). But those who do get it and do read it, can vouch for its simple existence and answer specific what-if questions.

As it is now the secrecy is a major inhibitor to the trust needed for membership growth or site owner comfort.

A cover page is irrelevent if, for example, there is NO medical coverage at all.

Jerry

It's really very simple. If you have no primary insurance, then secondary insurance pays!

Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD!

Of course you don't get it. You PAY it. TRA gets it. And none of it gets passed on to the insurance company. They just recently voted to raise the ripoff from $1500 plus $5 per person to $1500 plus $20 per person. LDRS is contributing about $7-8K t the sulus fund for no good reason. $25-30 of each TRA registration goes to HQ to not pay for additional insurance.

Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD!

It IS an insurance issue. Prior to the new NAR insurance coverage, only SOME NAR members had NAR insurance. TRA policy was that only INSURED NAR members could fly at TRA launches, since TRA isurance didn't cover ANY non members.

Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD!

Now I'm stretching to remember who first used the term "Large and Dangerous Rocket Ships"? Roger Johnson? (something) Davis? Wonder if they get royalties. NOT!

Chris Pearson wasn't the first. But he ran the first several LDRS launches, prior to there being a TRA. Back in the "good old days".

Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD!

That may be ttrue but, it doesn't make it primary insurance.

Phil

Phil Stein