I bought one _because_ it was HO. Now I can show visitors a typical
German goods loco and a typical British goods loco of the same time
I bought a couple (cheaper than cheap) that had been converted by
someone who owned a breadknife, UHU, a toothpaste tube carton, ballpoint
pen (broken), black housepaint and a three inch brush.
One had the Belpaire box cut off and card glued over the hole, a
shortened cab roof and the tender coal bunker altered.
The other had similar mods to the cab and tender with ribs across the
roof and a "V" chimney from BIC.
Leaving aside the quality of the alterations, the results didn't look
"Greg Procter" wrote
And it will also illustrate the relative quality of model offering to the
German and British markets. I somehow suspect that the German locomotive
will be better modelled AND better engineered.
Greg didn't state the age of his German freight loco; if it's of a similar
age to some of the ones I have then it will be without steam roller tyres
and pastry-cutter flanges. None of my Bavarian locos have red chassis.
I seem to recall that Tri-ang models didn't exactly have fine-scale wheels.
I think you will find that the Roco shunter is a model of an NS
shunter. NS had a fair number of them.
Closely related to the BR 08 but with a few variations.
Victoria railways in Australia had a small number of closely related
Locos as well. Known as F class.
Not at all, I've got a delightful little Bavarian 'Mallet' 0-4-4-0T loco
made by Roco (admittedly they're Austrian) which cost well below GBP100.00
and a Fleischmann Bavarian 2-4-0T loco and three equisite 4-wheel coach set
which was around GBP150.00.
None of these have steam roller tyres or pastry-cutter flanges, and if
anything have finer wheel standards than either Bachmann or Hornby's latest
offerings, and although both are small locos, I doubt whether either of the
principle British outline manufacturers could get them to the market any
cheaper bearing in mind the detail and quality performance.
My reference to Tri-ang models was in comparisoon with contemporary German
models. Maybe the Germans stuck with coarse scale wheels for longer, but
the quality of their mechanisms made up for that.
That's possibly why they're not (currently) bankrupt :o)
I agree, the krauts/squareheads/bosch make superb mechanisms but the final
product still looks like a brightly coloured toy. The same goes for their
buildings and vehicles in 3.5mm scale.
I can well remember a friend returning from a spell in Germany in
about 1977 and triumphing his Fleischmann models that he had
aquired over there. I was toatally bemused I'm affraid - they
did indeed have steam roller wheels and pastry cutter flanges, and
worse, the sharpness of the detail on the body was no where near
as sharp as the then new Hornby Evening Star, hand rails etc were
grossly over scale and the valave gear was "clumsy". They may or may
not have had better motors, but at that age that didn't matter!
I've no idea how they compare these days (I'm into 0 gauge), but
I did see a review of two Class 37 models on a magazine web site
recently (can't remember the two makers), and I was rather surprised
at the conclusion as to which was "better" - the points that struck
me were that one had better representation of fans than the other,
which was nice, but the suggested "better" one had most of the nose
detail missing (glaringly, lamp brackets). For me, I would
have rated them as models (obviously I've not seen them run) as
the same - both "flawed", though that's not do damn either of them.
It good old horses for courses again (with a lrage dollop of form
and functionality) - one of the factors in deciding to go '0' rather
than do '00' again was that I have to make everything, and if I get
it wrong it's my problem!
How about comparing like-with-like John?
This is an image of a Roco 3.5mm scale Class 08 shunter painted in BR
colours by Martin Wykes:-
Are you telling us this compares favourably with the latest Bachmann or
Hornby 4mm incarnations?
Sadly, I don't have a close up of Martin's Freightliner 66 so it's hard to
tell how that compares.
It's a fairly old model. Michael Andress did some articles in one of
the magazines more than 20 years ago. He was doing British HO using
what was available. For its era it was a heck of a lot better than the
Hornby product which didn't even have outside frames.