Lima OO scale

The "crackpots" to an extent. That's why it's being re-introduced for mosquito control in Africa.

MBQ

How many of your customers would be willing to pay £110 for a Class 08 in

4mm scale?

(kim)

"kim" wrote

None - especially with both Bachmann & Hornby having similar offerings at around half that price; but even then you're not really comparing like-for-like.

If your question were rephrased to ask 'how many of my customers would pay £110 for say a high quality model of a G5 0-4-4T or maybe a high standard model of a J25 0-6-0' (both similarly specialised models peculiar to a specific area) then I'd suggest quite a few.

John.

"beamendsltd" wrote

Funny how often you hear comments like it's been the hottest June since 1920 or the wettist July since 1870 - which seems to suggest that global warming was potentially a bigger issue in those days - except of course no one had heard of it then!

John.

In message , John Turner writes

What about if that class 08 had a sound chip installed?

You're confusing "Global warming" and higher temperatures!

Regards, Greg.P.

"Jane Sullivan" wrote

I had a play with one of the newly re-issued Bachmann sound-equipped class

20s last night and have to say that even with the limited functionality of my Lenz Compact DCC set-up, I found the sound exciting. Not exciting enough to make me want one permanently (but that may be as a result of the limitations of my Compact) as I still fear there may be a boredom factor after a relatively short while.

Now to your point, if an off-the-shelf, sound-equipped 08 was available I might be more tempted. It would be the ideal loco for a 'shunting plank' type layout, and sound might just add enough to generate more than the standard amount of interest with this simple type of layout. I suppose you could operate same with a class 20, and I reckon the sound would be more distinctive, but an 08 would have it for me for some reason.

John.

"Greg Procter" wrote

Am I? Is there any difference to be confused about.

Global warming has been a fact of life throughout the history of our bit of the universe (except of course during those periods of global cooling in the run up to each of the ice ages!).

John.

I don't know that - it's a guess.

Yes, which takes us back to the previous question.

We all know that, but when has the Earth's temperature ever risen at the present rate? The changes in the past have taken thousands of years, other than after specific events.

Greg.P.

I believe that ice ages are actually preceeded by warmer periods (or that was this weeks theory in an article on the BBC web site), which rather implies that nature employs a negative feedback loop to control climate - the snag may be though that natures acceptable "norm" may not match humanities requirements too well. Anyway, were going to be destroyed by a megga magama flow from Yellowstone and somewhere in India (both "overdure"), hit by a large meteorite (also "overdue" and have both a minor and major ice age (yep - "overdure" as well), and a collossal tsunami from a collapse in the Atlanitic trench so we've had it anyway..... unless, of course, the statistics have been massaged to get the desired results - surely not! ;-)

Richard

Someones just found evidence that climate has changed rapidly in the past too - I think it was ice cores from the Arctic. Might have been the Antarctic. Or Greenland (which was, in Viking times, but now contains

8% of the worlds fresh water - which is a rapid change in my book). I can't find the article now (most likely on the BBC Science site), but it does indicate that the full story isn't yet known - which leaves me wondering just what assumptions are built into the model used.

Richard

What scale are they? I ask because the only Lledo bus in my collection is

1/87.

(kim)

"we don't know precisely so we aren't going to worry" doesn't cut it with me.

If someone says to me "If you stand there you're going to get run over by a bus" I don't demand to know the colour of the bus nor it's precise timetable or a hundred other minor details before moving.

Did Lledo accidentally do a bus in 1:87 scale? Which one??? I wouldn't mind having one, but the scales seem to be all over the place like the old Matchbox toys.

Regards, Greg.P.

Global warming is a theory thats still under discussion and has a long way to go before being proven. This you can see by reviewing scientific literature by those few people that have some understanding of the subject.

Similarly that it is significantly affected by human activities is a theory under discussion.

So lets do something just in case is fine depending on what is suggested. As John and Richard have said in this country its a bandwagon that certain people have used to mess us about - councils and government persons especially. Most of their proposals will make effectively zero change to global warming whilst having much greater unintended consequences - ok maybe not with tax as it could be just another excuse to grab more for gordon. However emptying bins every 2 weeks instead of 1 will help the rats but but cause us health problems as well as increase fly tipping. It wont reduce waste and will increase CO2 as it means most householders have to go to the dump. So instead of one lorry we have a few hundred cars.

Cheers, Simon

"Nigel Cliffe" wrote

I'm already modelling in 4mm scale and will be adding a 7mm layout when the opportunity arises - I think that's enough to occupy the remainder of my life! ;-)

John.

Very true, but the current score is 95% consider it likely, 5% are paid by the US government to pick holes in the theories. Every scenario is a therory until it actually happens.

Meanswhile, Pacific atolls are disappearing under water and their inhabitants are forced to move here. The weather patterns are changing drastically (Australia - 5 years drought, NZ - weather going to extremes etc etc) Scientific indications are that the changes may well snowball, ice in the Arctic and Antarctic are rapidly diminishing ...

"Greg Procter" wrote

I've no idea Greg, because despite rumours to the contrary I've not been around for the last few million years. Who's to say that there haven't been similar temperature blips in the past?

John.

"Greg Procter" wrote

I thought the 5% of non-adherents were being actively discouraged by all governments, who seem hell-bent on using GW as an excuse for switching the balance of taxation further from the rich to the poor.

I think we flatter ourselves that we're able to influence the nature to such an extent with our every-day activities, unless of course if you include cataclysmic events such as exploding nuclear devices and other major military activities. I wonder how much the invasion of Iraq and the UN's involvement in Afghanistan are affecting climate change - I suspect probably more than our governments would wish us to know.

John.