Gunner: I'm back

Was that directed to you? Ok, I was mistaken. Sorry. When I reach 2% of the bile spewed by Tubby Timmy regarding my family, in regards to anyones family..simply shoot me. I see farther up the line, he has continued the practice, so after I get done reading it in a few minutes..I may have to take up a new project.

Btw, I dont have a clue if you are married or not, or have an old lady, so it was not directed at a known person. Just an insult during an argument. It has been kind of a shock though finding out Bob Brock was gay. Shrug

Gunner

That rifle hanging on the wall of the working-class flat or labourer's cottage is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there. - George Orwell

Was there a reply here?

Considering all the jobs that were lost during the last administration..isnt any job creation a good thing? What do we have...5.7% unemployment at the moment? Its unfortunate that so many of the "good jobs", like switchboard operator or buggy whip maker, or networking pro have all vanished, or have gone over seas. Ill bet you can sympatize with the Luddites or the Wobblies.

Some truth to that..and some not truth. Makes a fellow wonder where all the switchboard operators for the phone companies went. Were they executed when the COs were automated?

Gunner

That rifle hanging on the wall of the working-class flat or labourer's cottage is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there. - George Orwell

Tim May wrote in news:210620041734414117% snipped-for-privacy@removethis.got.net:

apart from you Timbo , who the hell cares ?

Im putting you fat arse in the sin bin for a while , till you get over your unhealthy obsession with Gunners woman .

Lyme disease can be a bad one, and is often not detected as its symptom mimic many others. I live in a high tick area, and have a number of pets (dusted regularly) and have been ridden by ticks a number of times (usually while working under a vehicle). Fortunately this part of the country is still largely Lyme free. In other parts of the US, its becomeing really an issue.

Gunner

That rifle hanging on the wall of the working-class flat or labourer's cottage is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there. - George Orwell

Oh, I wasn't looking for an apology; just an acknowledgement by you that you do indeed go for the jugular with family insults. You admitted this, much to your credit.

Hey, I was dishing it out too...;-)

Yeah, and Liberace...who could've seen that one?

huge enormous snip

Gunner said this, and gunner said that. I have the sneaky suspicion that nobody really cares about your editorial comments, not to mention the comments about 'he should do this, and he should do that.'

Like I said, the quickest way to prove you have nothing to contribute to *any* discussion is by leading off with the statement "you know what _your_ problem is..."

Jim

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Seems that you have quite the bee under your bonnet. I guess your life is empty and you needed a hobby.

I know I just found another one.

Shiva, Tim May Fan Club President. That rifle hanging on the wall of the working-class flat or labourer's cottage is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there. - George Orwell

"Tim May" wrote

Methinks you need to you need to smarten up a little. Find out where the delete and ignore functions are on your computer. Hell, get out into the garage and do a little metalworking.

You think you are so perfect? That your life and beliefs are all that good? If all I had to do was sit around and make up the claptrap you come up with, I would shoot myself fatally within fifteen seconds.

Steve

Keep making these kinds of threats.

(Yes, I removed you from my killfiles. My attorney advised me to keep all of your posts in a folder and to print them out at intervals. She said your profile pretty much matches someone about to "go postal.")

As for your last comment, about the jobs created during the Bush Admin partly making up for all of the jobs lost during the "last administration," you are quite wrong about this.

While I don't credit Clinton with _creating_ the booming economy during the '93-'00 period, neither do I credit him with any lost jobs. More jobs, overall, were created during this economic boom than were lost. Since the tech bust in '00, which I also don't blame Bush for, the number of jobs created certainly has not been impressive, espeically for their skill and pay levels.

As someone said, a lot of those jobs are greeters at Wal-Mart sorts of jobs.

What's coming is going to make the tech bust look like a picnic. I was talking to an Indian designer yesterday who is involved with some of the new ultra-VLSI designs in Hyderabad. Impressive, for those who can exploit the programming challenges. But very bad news for anyone not at the cutting edge.

And so it goes.

--Tim May

I've been off line for a week so I heard about your adventure and your return in the same sitting. Welcome back. All speed in your recuperation. Of the several people that I've known that went though this, most thought they were better than new, so let's hope.

-- W§ mostly in m.s -

"no free man shall be taken or imprisoned...except by the lawful judgment of his peers or by the law of the land."

--Magna Carta 1215

Tim... living in Santa Cruz County... I think as we have lost many good jobs and companies over the years... so is the country going to see the same thing... Look at the increase of houses and apartments that are empty for months and not rented out.. and not summer rentals.... for the last ten years.. you never saw a rental sign.. only people moving in and out... a line at the door for to rent your place... last year Santa Cruz had a decline in population... as the older wealthy purchase home... their is a greater decline in the kid population..so we close schools... 911 accelerated the move overseas..... the increased debts of the state of CA... are going to encourage more individuals and businesses to leave... only one place to get a good job or money to build a business... and that is from rich people.. and if they are forced or encouraged to exit CA.. we will continue a downward spiral... with nothing but jobs at O'neil's, coffee shops, and little mom and pops businesses ....

Later, Mike

"My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. What I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union; and what I forbear, I forbear because I do not believe it would help to save the Union. I shall do less whenever I shall believe what I am doing hurts the cause, and I shall do more whenever I shall believe doing more will help the cause." -- Abe Lincoln

Prior to my heart surgery, three doctors said, "You are going to be amazed at how much better you feel." I had been ill for seven years, and it was progressive, meaning that feeling bad was a gradual thing.

Then I had an 8 hour surgery, followed by a week in the hospital.

Six weeks after getting home, I was walking around at 9300' elevation near Panguitch, Utah.

I was really amazed at how much better I felt.

I think Gunner will feel a lot better, too. Hope so.

Steve

Well, I have lived in Santa Cruz County continuously since 1986, and first lived here beginning in 1982, and first started visiting in 1973.

Believe me, the kinds of jobs in Santa Cruz for most of the past 30 years (and longer, other people and the records tell me) have not been impressive: working at surfboard shops, selling taffy at the Boardwalk during the summer, and working at the hundreds of restaurants, bars, motels, and other places catering to a commuting and tourist population.

Beginning around when I first moved here in 1982, significant high tech moved in, mainly companies like Seagate, Sirius (a PC maker), Watkins-Johnson, Ferranti, E-Mu, Santa Cruz Operation, and so on.

Yes, most of these companies evaporated. Same as the "Space Available" buildings over in Silicon Valley. I won't even try to list the names of the companies which evaporated.

You are right about the increased debts and taxes in California...my old company Intel (which I worked for beginning in 1974) has said it will do no expansion whatsoever in the State of California. This because of high taxes, worker's comp insurance rates, and a growing "entitlement" concept.

(Which is why I am giving Gunner such a hard time--it's hard seeing someone who has ranted for so long about socialism suddenly, and opportunistically, embrace it. Embracing protectionism (by nattering about how "Clinton exported the jobs") is part of this collectivist, entitlement, democratic mindset.)

The best jobs are always at the cutting edge. The companies in Santa Cruz, or in Riverside, or in Santa Clara, or in San Diego which evaporated were mostly companies no longer on the cutting edge. Seagate the disk drive maker, E-Mu the electronic keyboard maker, SCO the weird amalgam of Unix and Microsoft, and so on.

We are headed toward a dramatically changed world.

--Tim May

It being a dull day, I decide to respond to what Gunner fosted Sun, 20 Jun 2004 19:27:37 GMT on rec.crafts.metalworking , viz:

I don't remember those ..ah.. serving conditions, but "Fanta Naranja" is one of those instant trips down memory lane.

probably one more reason i don't drink it like I did.

"Reminds me of a story ..." We were in Egypt when we ran out of sugar for the Koolaid. But still drank it as we needed something to cover the water purifying chemicals. When we got to Crete, we bought sugar, but discovered the Kool Aid "tasted funny"(way too sweet) when we put the "proper" amount of sugar in it. CUt the sugar in half and it was drinkable again.

pyotr

Or his uncle being the head of the Arkansas Mafia

Gunner

That rifle hanging on the wall of the working-class flat or labourer's cottage is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there. - George Orwell

Another point along that line is the 'tell me why first' generation.

I was taught to jump when told as my Dad grew up on a Farm with Horses the size of Drafts - Morgans - and a step on a foot would be remembered forever. A fall out of the hay loft or off the ladder in a....

Kids nowadays question to much beforehand.

Martin

Indeed. I only dipped snuff and totally avoided caffeine. Kept my heart beat nice and steady and predictable. Did the same when I was a competitive shooter in later years.

Sigh..how far they fall...

Gunner

That rifle hanging on the wall of the working-class flat or labourer's cottage is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there. - George Orwell