Estes Snapshot Flight Report

The way you make excuses for them, it's no wonder they continue to pull this kind of crap. I guess TRA is a religion where the leadership is infallable. You have to have faith and believe.

If that is the case, I'm an atheist.

Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD!

The problem is that those untested motors are still out there, waiting to cause an accident that will affect MY hobby. I'm not willing to let a TRA lie put people at risk.

Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD!

What Ray said. I don't recall ever meeting Phil, but would welcome the chance. In almost 40 years of rocketry I've only had two encounters that were not civilized. In both cases the police were called to deal with the situation.

Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD!

Yeah, the worst-case downside would be something like a case where an insurer would try to weasel out of a claim by alleging that the accident in question had been caused by the safety code violation of "using a motor that had not been properly tested for listing as certified"... a little bit far-fetched IMHO, although in principle I can see that it would be a potential risk of having someone miss out on insurance money that could otherwise have been available to help deal with an accident.

-dave w

Who's Dr. Marcus?

I doubt there are very many of those motors still in existence, since the ones you claim were not tested are well over 10 years old. Any that remain are probably in the hands of collectors.

Massive excuses.

solid as in not a gas and not a liquid? Because if you meant solid like proof sufficient for a court we were there a long time ago.

Over and over and over and over.

Like 14 years and counting for Kelly.

Jerry

Don't worry. Some weenie from NIRA already used then at a local launch.

The thing is that the motors Bob is refering to would have had to been recertified at least once since this supposedly happened. That's one reason why it doesn't matter.

Bob - what motors are the ones you're talking about? Let's see when they were last tested.

Captain Kirk's ex wife. Their son took some short cuts building the Genesis device. I thought Bob would get it. ; )

Randy

Khaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan!

Typical TRA recertification is to ignore the rules and summarily renew them without testing.

Even I had that happen to me a couple of times. The samples I offered were refused and that was before I was personna nongratta.

ALL 18mm RMS from TRA TMT.

Are you refering to Sue declining to be you personal delivery service?

Nope. These examples preceeded her service.

I checked the TRA TMT web site & no 18mm motors are listed as having been tested by them.

I checked AT's web site & there are only 3 different 18mm motors made.

jerry's previous claims were that TMT took his samples and then burned them in rockets.

Which make believe story is it jerry?

At the time I believe there was a wider selection of loads for the RMS18 case.

-dave w

Jerry "BIG FINE" Irvine made a stand with the man and $40 K he had to pay Hey, what the deal--he continues to squeal.. Is it paranoia or just to annoy ya??