O.T. - On Target...

Thank you for seeing the oblivious !!

Koyoto is just like affricative action was... REVERSE DISCRIMINATION is all this was, and is proving to have been a failure... You cant penalize one group of people just to make the other group like the first. It will never happen, and does nothing but breed more distrust, and hatred....

One standard for all is the only thing that will get any reasonable man/womans consent, and motivation to achieve the desired goal. Anything short of this is doomed to failure, as you immediately disenfranchise one group for the so called good of another.

And.... if we are all soo concerned about the planet, than one standard for all is the only fair approach !!

Koyoto is to me the european way of doing to America finically, what they would like to be able to do to us militarily............ (and never will be able to :)

It certainly would be ironic, as the Iranians followed up the Israeli strike against Osirak (sp?) with one of their own.

Tom

"Mark Schynert" wrote

Don't forget a shining example of a single-payer health care system.

True, I am being too hard on us. Add up all the real trauma caused by the US in all its colonies from 1776 to 2004, multiply it by 10, and you'll have the equivalent of about a year's worth of grief resulting from the colonization efforts of the morally superior Europeans.

KL

And the US has not now, or ever, sent spies into the camps of their friends? Get real - spying is what makes international diplomacy work. Without spies, diplomats wouldn't have a clue. I'm sure the Israelis aren't alone in wanting their spies returned, either. It's damned expensive to train one.

RobG

At least California is big enough that when they burn the rice stubble the smoke stays in the state.

Tom

This thread could really get interesting if it went to arguing the "Liberty" attack.

Anybody have any idea why it was attacked?

Tom

Israeli participation was what, exactly?

You left out Operation Desert Storm. Their participation was limited to depleting Sadaam's offensive missile arsenal at the expense of several of their civilians.

Could you possibly mean 1958?

BTW, do you personally feel that Israel has the right to exist as a nation?

Tom

"AM" wrote >

Oyf, this nitwit again.

Hello! Hello? Yoo-hoo, anonymous retard going by "AM" :

Before you started writing, did you stop to think why you don't recall ever hearing of a colony called "The American Congo", or "American Equatorial Africa"? Did you wonder why Google came up with The Dutch East Indies, German East Africa, and Italian Somaliland, but nothing similar sounding but with an "American" prefix?

Apparently not.

Tell ya what, try Googling for the definition of "satire". Then look up the meaning of another word that probably stumps you: "cat".

You are an absolute moron.

KL

"AM" wrote

Is it that you are too stupid to turn or your spell-checker, too arrogant to believe that it may be right and you are wrong, or too naive to consider that writing like this causes the reader to think: "Well, he's got some good ideas for a fourth-grader"?

We don't need Kyoto, we already have the suicidal NAFTA.

Let's see, we pass that one in order to give more production capabilities to Latin America, then our wonderful corporations use it to send the jobs to our good friends in China. any American jobs lost, same number of Latino illegals coming here to try and iprove their lives.

Is that just my perspective, or is that pretty accurate?

Tom

"Maiesm72" wrote

The IDF was massacring Egyptian prisoners in the Sinai and they were afraid the Liberty had heard them planning it or talking about it (I forget which).

KL

and they can home brew entire harley engines. that is a big model...and it works.

Then there's the Marxist government in the Philippines.....

Um, Kurt's post was satire.....

Hell, I could live with that if they'd just stop polluting us with all those wetbacks. Haven't they ever heard of *legal* immigration?

There are people on this group that are *far* more liberal than you! Hell, _I'm_ nearly as liberal as you and I'm a conservative....

Well said.

"Al Superczynski" wrote

Saddam did everything possible to convince the world that he had a hidden arsenal of WMD of a non-trivial size. We believed him, the British believed him, the French believed him, the Germans believed him, the Russians believed him, the UN believed him. We should at least get credit for moving one country from the "Maybe" to the "No" column. . .

KL

I see the oblivious all the time--it's not a pleasant sight.

Mark Schynert

Two, actually, if one counts Libya.