Re: Battlestar Galactica Cylon Raider..

Sounds more like the current brains behind Trek, Brannon Braga. He took over Voyager and is now in charge of the current series Enterprise. The general consensus is that those 2 shows were the beginning of Trek's end.

I believe Ron Moore did some good episodes of The Next Generation and Deep Space 9 before leaving the Trek fold. Maybe there's something to his revisionist take on Galactica. IMHO, the original wasn't very damned good anyway.

Mike

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Mike:

I read an interview with the actor who played Tighe some years ago and he said that the show was a mess. When he was hired they told him to report on a certain date. He went in, they grabbed him and threw that ridiculous "Colonial Warrior" uniform on him and shoved a page of script in his hand and they were shooting. No time for prep or anything. He said they were writing the thing as they went. Biggest problem in his mind was they couldn't make up their mind what kind of show they were doing, science fiction, fantasy fiction or a damn kids show (remember the cutsy little kid and the mechanical dog?). Show proved that a lot of fancy special effects will not salvage a lame idea, Dinutopia just re-emphasized the point.

Bill Shuey

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William H. Shuey

IIRC, that one was titled "Cattlecar Galaxica". (Or something like that...I saw it over some guy's shoulder in a bookstore in a shopping mall for just a few seconds...)

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Edwin Ross Quantrall

He gave his girlfriend a gig on Voyager. When she came onboard as 7 of 9 I think that improved the show quite a bit. I just never warmed to the elfish looking girl with the dour expression tha she replaced. Of course she had good reason to look so grim where she knew that she was going to die when she turned 14. When they pulled the plug on Voyager I was just getting used to the show and had even come around to accepting Janeway's stiff upper lip gag. Watching Enterprise makes me miss Voyager more and more.

And as for Enterprise, it blows. They added some space marines and it still blows. They gave Archer a dark side in his war on galactic terrorism and it still blows. Janeway was the worst ship's Captain until the last few seasons of Voyager when she lightened up a little and moved up one notch to leave the mystic emissary Sisko from DS9 as sole cellar dweller. Bakula holds the dubious distinction now. Archer is so frigging boring to watch drying paint falls asleep and stops drying if its in the same room with the TV. Just ask my model kits with wet fingerprints on them from Wednesday night. The Vulcan chick (Blalock?) is the best thing about this series. At least on the bookend season premieres in which she get's a little nekkid with **Lucky** Tucker. Tucker is gay; he has to be to turn down a massage from that hottie. I'd make her ears swell up like a Ferengi. Or the other way around and mine swell up like an Indian Elephant. Hubba, hubba.

So the next trick to try and save Enterprise from cancellation will have to be to bring in one of the original cast. Bones is out and if you saw Scotty at the TVLand awards show you know he's out too. Hell, I bet they'll have Archer discover the Nexus stream and Ye Olde Cap'n Kirk choppin' some more wood. It'll take something along those lines to get people to tune in.

Prequels are bad ideas. When will they learn, George Lucas. ;-)

WmB

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Ps. Trek ended when someone got the bright idea to resurrect Spock and age him to perfection in 90 minutes flat. And after he he died so well.

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WmB

Thanks for the background info Bill! I believe the first Star Trek movie suffered from the same "write it as you shoot" syndrome. Doesn't appear to be a very good approach.

Speaking of "Star Trek: The Motionless Picture", I thought the model of the Enterprise refit that came out at the time was pretty darned good. Too bad my modeling skills weren't quite up to the task! I guess there are now several aftermarket parts sets to make it a lot more accurate than it was.

BTW, the DVD Director's Cut of that movie is paced quite a lot better!

Mike

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Michael Alvarez

Wasn't it originally supposed to be a pilot episode for a second Star Trek series that they decided to make into a motion picture? It did appear that they started shooting and tried to stretch out the plot to make it last 2 hours. Rob Gronovius Visit my motor pool in the

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The real problem was ABC's censors: since BSG was airing at 8:00 PM in the "family hour" they had restrictions on the amount of violence, Cassiopea had her career change from socialator to medic, changing the Cylons to robots instead of living aliens under armor, etc. The show was still in the top

20 when it was axed in '79, and ABC realized its mistake immediately. However, the response was not rescinding the cancellation, but that horrid disaster called Galactica 1980.

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Matt Wiser

interesting

Alas, the louvers are cast as a solid piece, and you can't see into the cockpit. You can, however, peek into the engines in back and see out the missile launchers in front!

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Jack Bohn

While it starts out with the destruction of everything, that was just a setup for the rest of the story. There was the hope of finding the lost colony and rebuilding their civilisation, with some rough time on the way. What is shown in the preview makes the "Game over, man" rant in Aliens sound like a walk in the park. There is no mention of any chance of survival or rebuilding. Maybe there will be something somewhere in the show, but there is no clue to that so far.

BTW, the theatrical movie was a rework of the TV pilot for the European market, not the other way around.

They had good ideas, at least for some of the episodes, but I'll admit the bad writing made for atrocious results.

Dom

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Dominique Durocher

Mike:

I was in "Hobby Works" in Laurel, Maryland this afternoon and there is a new kit for the Motion Picture version of the Enterprise. Only $99.00! One of the Japanese companies put it out. It is pre painted with all the markings and the Aztec paneling and everything. For that price, it better be good. I didn't bite, I'm a Trekkie, but not that dedicated a Trekkie.

Bill Shuey

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William H. Shuey

My reading says something along the lines of there being several revival attempts throughout the '70s. At one point Paramount was considering their own network with ST the flagship show. Then there was the miniseries idea and eventually the movie.

As often as I've seen it the ending still does not make sense to me. Apparently it didn't to the creators either since the episode was rarely mentioned in later movies. I mean, where did the 'thing' go?

Bill Banaszak, MFE

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Bill Banaszak

Voyager? Sheesh, I was glad when they made it home. "Now I don't have to waste any more tape!" At which time they started teasing with "Enterprise" ads. Well, I watched it and I liked it for those first two years. Personally, I don't much care whether it falls off TV now or not.

Bill Banaszak, MFE

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Bill Banaszak

Each of the Trek series has to be original unto itself whilst maintaining continuity (well, sort of--Klingons sure changed their appearance). TNG worked simply by running history forward X number of years. DS9 worked by moving to a station instead of a ship--and then the story arc got coated with a lot of mystic mumbo-jumbo, but it still worked pretty well because of the quality of some of the actors. Voyager was mostly boring because it was mostly unoriginal and had what was literally a pedestrian plot device--getting home. AFAIC, it just injected a lot of false urgency into the show. That said, it wrapped up decently enough.

Enterprise has a really great premise, even if it is a prequel. I don't think it suffers from the same problem as LucasWar, since we know too much about the latter for there to be any suspense. In the case of Enterprise, we don't know how they get to the Kirk-based line of stories, so the backfill can be interesting. However, I have to agree that Bakula is absolutely deadly, and most of the rest of the ensemble is uninspired. If the acting doesn't tie us into the characters better than they have done so far, the story line won't matter one whit.

Mark Schynert

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Mark Schynert

I thought that was the start of the Borg? ;)

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Dan

That kit is old news. In Japan it sells for about $58. Even with overseas shipping, it should cost well under $99.

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Wayne C. Morris

So why did the movie appear in Canadian theaters *before* it premiered on US TV? Maybe it was originally intended to be a TV pilot, but they released it in theaters first, then made a few more changes before airing it on TV several months later.

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Wayne C. Morris

I know, that is interesting, but I've never found a reliable answer to that. Ithad always been meant as a series, so why make a movie version of the pilot I don't know. The differences are small, but interesting. I guess there were some changes after the pilot was first shot.

Dom

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Dominique Durocher

:> BTW, the theatrical movie was a rework of the TV pilot for the :> European market, not the other way around.

: So why did the movie appear in Canadian theaters *before* it premiered

Also was a "big screen" release here in Australia, as was the two-parter "The Living Legend", released as "Mission Galactica" IIRC.

The two Ewok telemovies from the 80s as well...

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Ruediger LANDMANN

"Mission Galactica: The Cylon Attack". I got to watch "Conquest of the Earth" at the movies (almost by accident), but supposedly there was another movie in between which I've never seen...

Hmmm... Telemovies? I thought they were movies-movies...

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