On 1/24/2008 6:27 PM Greg Procter spake thus:
In a message very close to this one, responding to a list of words with
American spellings, you said, "If you can't spell that is entirely your
problem.". Now you're trying to claim you're not arguing about the
spelling of words? Sheesh.
On 1/24/2008 6:39 PM Eddie Oliver spake thus:
Hey, Eddie, what do you say we get out of here, go have a drink, and let
this idiot stew in his own juices?
That's what I'm going to do, anyhow: a nice big martini, gin, I think,
nice and cold. Ahhhhh.
If you're going to find me guilty of a crime by way of using my defence
as the evidence, and the crime, then you're most definitely arrogant in
Usually crimes need to be committed _before_ the trial, not in defence.
Have you handled any good inquisitions lately? Gitmo perhaps?
Greg is attention starved. He craves attention ... any attention.
Look at the idiotic statements and positions he takes. By being an
ass he gets more attention. He is just swelling up with satisfaction
by your responses. You've done your good deed for the year.
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 15:22:43 +1300, I said, "Pick a card, any card"
and Greg Procter instead replied:
So what? I at least know the conversion factors while you feign
ignorance. Or, perhaps you really are that ignorant. Nobody can tell
any more, Greg. You have plenty of folk convinced, though.
They are. So what? You keep pretending you need help converting. You
can't have it both ways, Greg. Either you do or don't know the
equivalents. Either you do or don't know the conversions. Did you
believe you were being clever, trying to trap someone? All you did
was ask an imponderable question and you got what you deserved. You
got digitally smacked around more then you normally do. Deal.
That's the entire point, Greg. You assume way too much. If you don't
know the answer to a smart alec question like you asked, perhaps you
should refrain from asking it. The process you chose only made you
look really, really ignorant by choice.
You're so confused that you confused half a dozen others here, Greg.
And for the record, I use all manner of measurements. When someone
states they are using a gallon of something, I know what that amount
is. I don't need to go spinning around like a top "a la Greg
Procter" just to try and make a point. When you wrote "1 litre" I
knew you meant 1000ml, or 1 liter without having make a pork chop of
myself pretending that you were wrong just for using a term.
I have a bottle of Grey's Ant and Termite poison in my shed. The
label says to mix it at the ratio of 100ml per quart of water or
kerosene. On a separate sticker, it states to mix 100ml per liter.
Yes, LITER, not LITRE. And this is an Australian brand manufactured
and bottled right here. Yet I don't run screaming, rending my
garments as I flee from my shed proclaiming to the world that
Australian measures are all messed up. And I certainly don't come to
a MRR newsgroup to complain like some Kiwi I know. Grow up, mate.
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 03:58:05 -0000, I said, "Pick a card, any card"
and firstname.lastname@example.org (Paul Newhouse) instead replied:
The road to heaven is paved with messages to Greg. Not from him.
Those go the other way.
Which conversion factors - you live in Australia, a nation that used
different measurements to the USa.
Then there's no need for me to know a conversion factor for US gallons -
I'll just buy litres.
I've never suggested I need help converting - however I do need to know
_what_ I am converting.
An ignorant Australian pretending Australian and US gallons are the same
gives me no confidence at all in his opinion.
You've already pretended to have it both ways - you're brought up with
(imperial) gallons and you claim US gallons are gallons.
No, I don't know the equivalents - I know that there are approximately
4.5 gallons to the litre and that there are about 1.25 US gallons to a
An approximation times an approximation is pure rubbish.
You're the smartarse trying to trap someone - specifically me.
As I remember it you claimed that both litres and gallons were used
equally in the USa. You were told that was crap by an assortment of
people but you continue.
Ohh, I see, I should assume more where your opinion counts and less when
my opinion counts - that's entirely clear!
Meanwhile, you make yourself l;ook like a totally arrogant pratt.
Ray, you don't even know that the gallons you were brought up with are
25% bigger than the ones we are discussing - you refuse to recognise
that you're totally bamboozled and you refuse to admit that you're
totally wrong when numerous people point it out to you.
As do I Ray.
No you don't Ray, because you need one more bit of information - which
gallon is being discussed.
Oh wow! you really are so smart.
It's a world wide standard measure Ray.
or 1 liter without having make a pork chop of
But that's exactly what you did - you argued the spelling of "litre".
Great - will you use Imperial quarts or US quarts??? Will you use
imperial mls or US mls?
Ok, so Aussies can't spell, that's no surprise to anyone.
You probably aren't smart enough to notice the difference.
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 20:47:51 +1300, I said, "Pick a card, any card"
and Greg Procter instead replied:
Whichever ones are required, Greg. I really can decide which without
making myself look like a flopping fish in a model railroad
newsgroup like you are doing. Really.
If you wish. Gasoline is legally dispensable in both gallons and
liters there. Some pumps actually have both on them but you'll have
to hunt around for them if you really are too stupid to figure out
when your tank is full. Most people realize it when the gasoline
slops over the edge of the filler pipe onto their shoes. You, on the
other hand, may need someone to convert that for you.
No, Greg. We've already established that that's you.
Um, Greg? Australians don't use gallons. Do Kiwis use them?
Whew. At least you're off that "Imperial US gallons" thing. You
still don't win the $5.00 because you haven't given up pretending to
be pig ignorant. And, if you're not pretending, you'd be too dumb to
know the difference.
Look it up on Google, boy, and try again.
Nobody needs any help trapping you, Greg. A wombat could trap you.
They are used in the US as a dual standard and have been since 1970.
Is this about opinions? If it were, I wouldn't even engage you as
your opinions are worth about the same as burnt match heads.
Compared to what? A totally ignorant one like you?
When someone - I think it was you - brought up US gallons versus
liters, the normal, intelligent person would have known which kind
of gallons were being discussed and made the conversions easily.
You, on the other hand, remain in the dark.
Clearly not. You've shown no evidence of that for days now.
Now you're telling me what I know or don't know? Speaking of
arrogant, boy, you take the cake.
I do know the amount. Exactly. When someone mentions a gallon of
gasoline from the US, how much is there, Greg? Why, one gallon. How
much did you think it was?
That's right. World wide. Without exception. Even in the US which
you so brashly claimed didn't use that standard.
That was you, Greg. Not me.
I'll use a quart or a liter. In the case of this particular mix it
doesn't appear to be that critical.
Ahem. Spelling problems again?
I can spot your tantrums a mile off.
On 1/25/2008 12:51 AM Ray Haddad spake thus:
Correction: Here (U.S.), gas (gasoline, or "petrol" to you) is *always*
dispensed in gallons. NEVER in liters. I challenge you to show me a
single specific counter-example.
We buy gas by the gallon here, NOT by the liter. (It may be legally
acceptable to dispense it by metric measures, but it just ain't done.)
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 10:11:46 -0800, I said, "Pick a card, any card"
and David Nebenzahl instead replied:
I've already stated that some pumps show both. It's legal, you know.
And they exist. Prove they don't.
So what? That's never been the question under discussion here. Greg
stated that the US doesn't use metric. I disagree. I'm American. I
use metric. And Imperial. And other forms of weights and measures. I
have since I was a child. Learned it in school. Most Americans do.
On 1/25/2008 12:07 PM Ray Haddad spake thus:
Sorry, the burden of proof here is on *you*. I've never, never, ever
seen a gas pump here with metric measures. Never. Where have you seen
them? Has anyone else ever seen any in the US? Any examples?
First of all, you're an American who's kibitzing from afar in Oz. And
you're still claiming metric usages that don't exist here in the US.