It's been a while ... what new RTR models would folks like to see

I'd still like to see the GWR Duke/Bulldog/Dukedog family. With a minimum of extra tooling they could do Dukes, straight and curved frame Bulldogs and Dukedogs all using the same chassis.

Given that Bachmann and others in the US include alternative cabs etc in the boxes they could also supply the early short smokebox, and using springy flexible plastic for the top feed that could be removeable.

These engines were remarkably long lived. The Dukes and Bulldogs lasted from the late 1890s into the 1950s.

I'd also like to see a Manning Wardle Old Class I or a Class K. These engines go back to E.B.Wilson (just) and were built throught the second half of the 1800s, and many of them lasted into the 1950s so it would be legitimate to run one alongside an Austerity.

Before anything else Bachmann should update their unrebuilt Scot - its still basically the Mainline one ! All that kerfuffle when Hornby did rebuilt Scot and Patriot, then Bachmann upgraded Jubilee and stole unrebuilt Patriot. :-)

Cheers, Simon

A 'Jenny Lind' 0-2-0. These were the first mass-produced locos at the end of the 1840s and were sold to a variety of railway companies the length and breadth of the UK. They had elegant fluted domes and safety valve covers, a range of 4- and 6- wheeled tenders, and a few were later rebuilt with cabs. One basic model could be turned out year after year in the liveries of LBSC, Midland, Birmingham & Gloucester, London & Birmingham. There would be the opportunity then for a variety of 4-wheel and 5-wheel carriages, with all the luscious lampgear on the roofs and fiddly moulding round the doors.

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'Columbine', .Grand Junction 0-2-0

'Liverpool', the Crampton that starred at the Great Exhibition

Now, here is a real challenge to the dcc merchants, the builders of mechanisms, and the detailers: What about a working rail-mounted crane? complete with luffing, slewing, and winch mechanisms? even deployable outrigger legs?

Oh, and just for grins, let's have all of those in Gauge 1, 0, HO, & N!

Am I missing something - that looks like a 2-2-2 to me. An 0-2-0 would be interesting, though I'm sure it has been done - I've seen a working model of a Patiala State Monorail 0-3-0.

ITYM "2-2-2". 0-2-0 is strictly Emmett.

Add: a reasonably generic Stephenson Patentee and the 0-4-2 goods equivalent, plus a Sharp, Roberts 2-2-2 and/or a Hawthorn ditto, and you have the makings of the locomotive stock for pretty well any line. Carriages and wag(g)ons were fairly generic at that time (or good enough!)..

Yep. Works for me.

Again, 2-2-2. Buddicom ("Crewe") type 2-2-2s and 2-4-0s would be great, given their long life (to the 1890s) and wide spread (from the midlands to the far northern Highlands). Yep.

An oddity, and a failure. Far better to have a 2-20 and 0-4-0 Bury, which were successful and widespread (and, again, long-lived, with examples seeing extensive industrial service...).

There's a lot going for the early-modern image railway (late

1830s-1850s): short trains, tight curves quite acceptable. No need for lineside signalling, interesting operational practices..

Actually - here's a challenge for the DCC mob: common 1840s-1860s practice was to uncouple the locomotive on the move on approach to the station. Locomotive would then accelerate, run into a siding and (everyone hopes) stop. Train - and I'm talking passenger trains here - would run into the terminal platform under its own momentum and (again, one hoped) be stopped by the van handbrake. So - a DCC controlled coupler and some form of braking. Should be OK...

In model form, at least, it's been done. Quite famously, too:

OK, it's late and I've been working hard.

Emmet did an o2o and I've seen it modelled...

Mixed traffic, hunting specials, that sort of thing. I like the idea an awful lot. And, as you say, short trains. I can imagine a 1st/ second, a 3rd, a parliamentary, and a 3rd-brake all in different styles

Ooh, I like that. powered coaching stock...

Ah, the good old Far Twittering and Oysterperch Railway!

2-2-2 surely?

Also the GWR. When they acquired the standard gauge West Midland Railway this included some Jenny Linds. There is a famous pictute of "Will Shakspere" which remained in its original condition until very late.

If you're going back that far though, a Stevenson patentee mighty have a bigger market.

Both very limited market.

Don't forget the BRistol and Exeter's broad gauge steam railmotor Fairfield, which was an 0-2-0 permanently attaqched to a 4-wheeled carriqage.

I want the small Sharpie 2-4-0 tender engines bought by many of the smaller railways. The GWR acquired one when it took over the Pembroke and Tenby Railway, and used this on the Didcot, Newbury and Southampton line.

But nobody's going to do that one.

bobharvey wrote in news:c68bc0f7-dd39-456e-a483- snipped-for-privacy@x18g2000pro.googlegroups.com:

Not necessarily, I gave this some thought some time ago when we were discussing slip coaches, place a magnet under the tracks at the place where you want the coach to stop and place a second one under your slip coach and Bob's your uncle.

Ensure your train is going fast enough and have some form of mechanical uncoupler ahead of where you want the coach to stop and the magnets should ensure that it stops in the right place.

That appears to be a 4-2-0!

Definitely in N please...

the question wasn't what would sell - but what I'd like to see.

But yes, there were not many Cramptons on the LNWR, and the idea of a 'crewe type' would be a better one. Some 4-4-0 s lived a long time too.

The principle is good - provided that it is a tender engine! The French use motorised hand rotovators to tow ride on trailers and I have seen the same thing used as a ride on when working the soil. Such an arrangement would have been perfectly functional as a rail locomotive -- in my opinion.

Warley, or was it Manchester?, last year had a demonstration rail-mounted crane. Very impressive to watch in operation!

"Liverpool" was a 6-2-0.

6-2-0 (or 4+2-2-0 - Cramptons don't really fit the White notation very well).