[F-FT] RMS delay question/comment

you did not answer the question, and no I was NOT referring to ROL auctions.

Care to try again?

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Dave Grayvis
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I do; You got caught Jerry. Not only did you get caught violating the law, you attempted to do so by knowingly misrepresenting the contents of the shipment:

ACTION ON APPEAL

Background: On July 25, 2002, the Chief Counsel, Research and Special Programs Administration (RSPA),U.S. Department of Transportation, issued an Order to Dynamic Propellent Technologies, LLC,U.S. Rockets, LLC, and Mr. Jerry Irvine (Respondents), jointly and severally, assessing apenalty in the amount of $57,500 for the following violations of the Hazardous MaterialsRegulations (HMR), 49 C.F.R. Parts 171-180:

Violation No. 1 - Knowingly offering for transportation in commerce hazardousmaterials, rocket motors and propellent, solid, that had not been examined, classed, and approved in accordance with 49 C.F.R. §

173.56 and, therefore, were unapproved explosives and unauthorized for transportation in commerce, in violation of 49 C.F.R.§§ 171.2(a), 173.51(a), 173.54(a), and 173.56. (I.E., 200 lb of rocket motors,a class 1 hazmat, marked as model airplane parts)

Violation No. 2 - Knowingly offering for transportation in commerce hazardous materials, rocket motors and propellent, solid, accompanied by a shipping paper that did not indicate that the materials are hazardous and that contained an improper descriptionof the materials, in violation of §§ 171.2(a), 172.200(a), 172.202, and 173.22(a)(1). (I.E., 200 lb of rocket motors,a class 1 hazmat, marked as model airplane parts)

Violation No. 3 - Knowingly offering for transportation in commerce hazardous materials, rocket motors and propellant, solid, in a quantity that required placarding, without registering with RSPA as a hazardous materials shipper, in violation of 49 C.F.R. (I.E., 200 lb of rocket motors,a class 1 hazmat, marked as model airplane parts)

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Reads like you "knowingly" took liberties with the truth.. The key word being "knowingly".. I guess "knowingly" means you were "living the life stile".

Fred

Reply to
WallaceF

Once or twice :-)

I kept asking because Ray initially made it sound like he did it (AT delay mods) all the time. At least until now, this was not permitted at NAR/TRA launches. I guess Ray flies on hos own a lot, without the benefit of NAR/TRA insurance.

Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD!

Reply to
Bob Kaplow

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criminal.

No, breaking the law makes a person a criminal. Being convicted in court simply makes you a convicted criminal. Here are the definitions, straight from Webster's dictionary:

Main Entry: [2]criminal Function: noun Date: circa 1626

1 : one who has committed a crime 2 : a person who has been convicted of a crime

BTW, I haven't had a speeding ticket in several years despite the fact that I routinely exceed posted speed limits. Does that mean speeding is legal? No, it just means that you can often get away with it. If you tried speeding during your driver's test, you would not get your license. Submitting motors for certification without meeting the legal requirements is like speeding during your driver's test.

Reply to
raydunakin

I do.

Technically, that depends on how you define "permitted". I've seen launches where delay mods are a recommended procedure.

Correct. I do very little flying at club launches.

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Reply to
raydunakin

You're confusing legality with lax enforcement against minor offenders.

=BF

Reply to
raydunakin

By that definition and given the complexity and sheer width of jurisdiction of so many laws, we are near constant criminals while "living life".

Jerry

Reply to
Jerry Irvine

You stated it was zero tolerance. I gave an example of a "constant flow" of transactions.

Jerry

Reply to
Jerry Irvine

Ray said nothing about "zero tolerance".

Are you still high on glue?

Reply to
Dave Grayvis

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