ROL NEWS--AeroTech Announces Certification of Three New Reload Kits

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Where do you get this information? And with the judge's ruling, does it _matter_ what ATF actually says? (We won an important point over them in court... do we have to "make them say uncle" too?)

-dave w

OK, what's the difference between someone who makes motors to sell to his buddies (with such permits as may actually be required) and a "manufacturer"?

-dave w

You have no clue.

But at least you post anyway!!

He cannot comprehend.

God bless me.

Or should I say I bless me.

Yes, there was a lot of anger in the hobby towards Vulcan over that incident, and rightly so.

At the time, DOT did not require shipping approval for what they considered to be a flammable solid. It wasn't until after this video incident that they changed their rules and made it harder to ship APCP.

Bull. Vulcan had no reloadables at that time.

More BS. The original Vulcan delays used something called "SCID cord". John Davis (Gary's partner in Composite Dynamics) worked out the formula for AT delays, a formula which has since been adapted by other manufacturers including Vulcan.

Vulcan had the first red-flame propellent (Hellfire), that much is true. But it wasn't the same formula as Redlines, and has a much less vivid coloration.

You mean everyone except the ATF. They still haven't officially accepted the judge's ruling, much less agreed that it applies to manufacturers.

Quit replying to yourself, Jerry.

Correct. Also, this is something that AT had in the works for a long time, and already had casings made for the new loads.

A commercial facility.

That does not result in motor certs. Even when the authorities approve the facility.

No

No there wasn't. There was anger on the part of the NFPA sport rocket caucus. 10 guys or less.

Not.

Total bullshit.

Not that YOU are aware of as a CONSUMER.

Ask experts.

Nope.

You are simply full of crap.

Learn to read. The question was; "OK, what's the difference between someone who makes motors to sell to his buddies (with such permits as may actually be required) and a "manufacturer"?

No One said anything about motor certs.

NFPA-1127

plonk.

The ATF said there was a 62.5g limit until we got the judge to slap their hands for illegal rulemaking.

I'm glad to see you finally admit this, Mr. Model Aircraft Parts.

Prove it.

Dave W. wrote: